Old scraps of info - do they mean anything more now?

[John Burroughs]

Observer what do you know about this site?

[Andy]

Strange, but that is the line marking the area that my greyhounds have often reacted strangely within and also compasses going haywire? I just put it down to a change in the earth's magnetic field?

[Observer]

Andy

Some good google earth shots. It is rather interesting that these line up going right across the forest etc.
The ness would be much lower that the BT Lab and is there an uninterupted line of sight between the two. Check the topography.
Don't forget that CM was long gone when this incident occurred.

Obs

[redsocks]

Just a quicky guys intil I can get my head round this a bit more.If you follow the given line wouldnt that be very close to the USAF radar installation at Foxhall Road?

Redsocks

[Wolf]

Just to set the facts straight, the USAF facility at 'Martlesham Heath' was a major communications site, not radar. The residents of this site referred to site as the 'Home of the Heathens'

It was originally manned by the 2130 Comm Sq Air Force Communications Service (under RAF Croughton), but this role was taken over by Det1 of the 2164th Communications Squadron (a tenant unit to the 81st Tactical Fighter Wing).

The site provided two tropospheric forward scatter radio systems, two terrestrial microwave radio links, AUTOVON switching and technical control facilities for these systems. It also controlled unmanned communications sites at Great Bromley and Mormond Hill

During the 70's, there were many local tales about the site's mission ranging from a radar station to an underground submarine base somehow connected to the North Sea. Martlesham Heath was a purely critical communications network station linking US and NATO forces in the UK and European Continent with the US.

Hope this info removes another object from the scope, or at least helps clarity things a bit.

V/R

Wolf

[Observer]

Hi all

Wolf has given us the same explanation of the Foxhall Road USAF Coms sight as Graham Haynes did a few posts back. It is still there but totally derelict.

My first suspicians about some sort of beam being transmitted from the BTRC and the Ness had us looking at the line drawn between the two and how it crossed right over Rendlesham Forest taking the alleged landing sites and Foley Cottage.
We must consider that this is purely coincidental and also the topography would need to be so arranged that there was a clear line of sight between the two places, I don't think there is.

The BTRC were researching the digital telecoms systems [first started at Dollis Hill, London] and fibre optic transmission lines. They also under took some Government work on coms systems but i cannote see any info to secret black projects or any such research that would cause the phenomena that was seen in RF.

We must all recognise that Cobra Mist was de commisioned in 73, 7 years before Rendlesham.
It is however intriguing that it was decommisioned because both the US and British governments could not trace the source of interference and both agreed that it was possibly being jammed from an unknown source.
They managed to isolate the area of jamming which was coming from land not sea. That darn forest again?????

They had the top scientists from both countries working on this problem and they gave up as the jamming basically beat them.

This may be worth ,looking into. This may be nothing to do with our mystery but its worth looking into the science.

Obs

[Wolf]

Re the dishes at BTRC. I will see if I can find out how many dishes and their orienation, as at dec 1980. I think the closest I can get is 86, but I'll look see....



BTW - the dwellings at the east end of Woodbridge runway are called Folly house or cottages, Foley comes from a typo that ifs in GB's book.

V/R

Wolf

[John Burroughs]

Here is my problem you take it for granted that they were not doing any special project or what was shut down and what was not. Ive been there when they say a project is shut down and its not. Ive been there when they have lied out there butt's in thr name of national security. They build one site and focuas all of the attention on that when just down the road is the real site. You have to go there and look around you have to talk to the people who live in the area you just cannot assume thats what they want you to do.

[John Burroughs]

I want to bring up somthing else. There are several articles about British Scientist who died in a mysterios who worked on the stars wars project. I don't know if there was somthing to that but DR Keith Bowden died in 1982 and it stated he had been working on stars wars for a British contrator. Star wars was being worked on and just because it was not being reported on as being sucessful does not mean they were not working on it............

[John Burroughs]

Did the Marconi Company have anything do do with the BT site or Orfordness

[John Burroughs]

Also Dr Keith Bowden was listed as working at a top secreat site at Martlesham Heath he worked in Aeorspace and Computer controlled Aircraft. I am not trying to get into any kind of therory of why he died just the fact that the Marconi Company, Plessey Def system BT and several dead scientist were tied to a Top Secreat site at Martleshman Heath involving star wars work . Also Flying school experimental flying sectiion was working out of Orfordness from 1915 lasting for 70 years. I am sure someone will pipe in and say there is nothing to it but I think not and it sure would be nice to take a on the ground look around. Plus didnot Bee say something about a underground base being built in that area. And as much as I hate to say this I have now learned that Warren didnot say the underground area he was taken to was at Bentwaters but off base. This came out from the first people who he made contact with when he first started telling his story!!!

[pupil88]

Hi John Burroughs,

You wrote that you listened to Coast to Coast and heard Jacque Vallee talking about the mind-control experiment on the Bentwaters incident. I assume the show was taped. In fact, in his book " Revelations " 1991 he held that position. When was the interview given?

Col. Halt sent him a " caustic " letter. Vallee went to Washington and lunched and talked with Halt for a long time. Halt claims he changed Vallee's mind and that Vallee now believed it was an authentic UFO phenomenon.

Halt's argument: " well, how do you explain this? The number of people involved - we're talkin 30 to 50 or more people, on three different radio nets, at different geographic locations. That's too hard to do, I think. When the people clear over on the base are seeing these same objects, seeing the same beams of light come down, and they're a mile or two miles away.It's pretty tough to pull off, isn't it."

This argument only included Halt's experience.

[John Burroughs]

The interview was on C2C last Tues night..

[pupil88]

Hi JB,

Was the interview LIVE or Taped?

Taped interviews can go too many years.

[Observer]

Silvertop

So that's another theory, very interesting as the US Navy had ships in the North Sea over that period as did the RN with i believe just one ship.
Puddlepirate will probably know more about this than me as he is ex RN

Obs

[Wolf]

Previous post by puddlepirate . After my posting on that page -

http://www.rendlesham-incident.co.uk/fo ... 46768e4617

V/R

Wolf

[Observer]

Hi all

Can any one tell me why Jenny Randles, author of Sky Crash has some time ago changed her mind with the remark "I NO LONGER BELIEVE ANYTHING OF SIGNIFICANCE HAPPENED IN RENDLESHAM"?
Forgive me if i don't describe the exact wording.

Obs.

[AdrianF]

Can any one tell me why Jenny Randles, author of Sky Crash has some time ago changed her mind with the remark "I NO LONGER BELIEVE ANYTHING OF SIGNIFICANCE HAPPENED IN RENDLESHAM"?
Forgive me if i don't describe the exact wording.

Obs.

In Sky Crash it appears she believed it was a very significant event. During the course of the book "UFO Crash Landing" it seems she was leaning more towards the possibility that some of Ian Ridpaths theory was valid, whilst still looking at the possibility something more profound took place.

Interesting that one of the people closest to the case, since day one has seemingly lost interest- if that is the case.

Adrian

[redsocks]

"Interesting that one of the people closest to the case, since day one has seemingly lost interest- if that is the case".

I believe this is the case for most main players once interested in the Rendlesham incident Adrian.I think because when you start to really look into this incident the cracks do appear.

Redsocks

[Observer]

redsocks

It had cracks in it from day one, they have just opened up a bit more.

Obs