Larry Warren Interview on "Now That's Weird"

[Deep Purple]

Should make interesting viewing.
Saw Larry Warren is our latest member and a big welcome to him
As a key WITNESS to the events Larry should be treated with utmost respect, if he doesnt say what you want to hear doesnt mean he is wrong .
Basically HE WAS THERE and the majority of forum members apart form JB werent---- so listen to what he has to say.
He might be wrong, you might be wrong, they might be wrong.
So Larry a great welcome to the forum and a big thanks for joining

[IanR]

Hi Larry, and welcome to the forum.

I wonder if you can clarify a couple of points for us. In Left at East Gate, you publish a letter you wrote home to your mother on January 6, 1981, a week before Col Halt wrote his famous memo. In this, you say:
“At about three in the morning, a guy I know in D-Flight of Security Police told me he responded to a falling star outside the Weapons Storage Area..."
As I understand it, you were also in D flight at Bentwaters. Can you tell us who this person you knew was? Has he gone on record?

Your letter goes on to mention the investigation in the forest by Burroughs, Penniston and Cabansag. Then you say:
“At that same time, me and five other guys were walking up a dark path about 2 miles from base... cause we couldn't get a ride and we felt like we were being watched and it was strange cause there were no street lights – Then we saw a bright light go right over us about 50 feet up and just fly over a field. It was silent. We first thought it was an A-10 jet. But they scream. So we ran away, because witchcraft and black magic is a big thing in this part of Suffolk and we thought that witches were in the woods. That light just seemed to jump over the trees – Then the next day it turned out that we were in the same place as the U.F.O. so I think we saw it too.”
Can you confirm roughly where you were when you saw this light go over the trees, and where you were coming back from?

Thanks,
Ian

[larry warren]

Hi guys,
I would say and girls, but this case dosent seem to attract the chicks,
to bad for us eh.
anyway once again im not doing this right, and as those that know me
say, stay away from my computer!
with reguards to Lori Rs bentwaters story,what she saw has nothing to
do with the events of late december 1980 as she had left the base
weeks before for a new assignment.
As to Ian R question about my letter to my mother,Ian i had left the
Cheery Tree in Bromswell, we had coke, the liquid kind! and had to
walk back to bentwaters as the bus stranded us, a guy was parked
up and the driver said a strange light or object crossed the road in front of him then we saw a blueish white light flash through some distant trees
could have been any thing but it was in the direction of Woodbridge Base.
We took off because we had to work shift that night, my letter home
indeed preceeds the halt memo and the contents of that letter
was me thinking i was more cleaver then the evil bastards that
warned us not to talk, i had called my mother got cut off, then
wrote the letter inwich icombined very minor eliments of the story
and at the same time tried to distance myself from what i saw, in
the end i was a dumb ass, because at the letters close i write,
Ma i will tell u the truth about the ufo when i get home, i cant i the
mail because they read it. yep folks at 19 i was a dumb ass for sure!
I feel halt did the same with the memo.
I have that letter to this day with envelop and post mark I call it
the Dumb Ass Memo.
So Ian thanks for the question, and for the nice welcome, you seem like a nice cat, ijust hate that damn light house!.
Iread with interest about the return of the arizona , cool to see
that JBs son saw it, i wonder if he knows who dad is in the UFO world?
My dennis thinks it is cool when the old man is in mags or on telly,
some day i will take him to the forrest and let him cheeck it out.
Point is the kids have open minds and its up to us all to get them involved
in this vital field of study cause when we older people take the perminate
dirt nap, it could all be forgotten! lets
not let that happen.
lastly, in ref to a recent post i think from observer, I dont think Halt,
Penniston, Bourroghs me or anyone else dirrectly involved in this
has made any money from this an honerarium or expensis dont
come near what those tv sharks make off our backs, if im wrong
i say good luck to them! and please send along your agents phone
number.
Jerry G you holy devil! get at you soon , and a hidihi to Dave!..
Best to you all for now.
Larry Warren
Dumb Ass Ret,
Liverpool uk

[Observer]

Hi Larry
I had some dinner at the Cherry Tree only recently.
Re making money, i only suspected that some of the guys may have made money and other guys like yourself didn't.
Hows my my home town doing?
Obs

[Deep Purple]

Its good to see you posting Larry.
You were there, and others were not, so dont worry too much.
Why do you sign off dumb ass, you are clearly not.
dont do yourself down
How do you like living in Liverpool compared to the US?
Do you wish you had never got involved in this mystery?

[IanR]

Thanks for the additional info, Larry. did it ever occur to you that you might have seen the same thing that Bud Steffens saw from East Gate?

you seem like a nice cat

Actually, I am, but I don't want it to become too well known. I was quite happy with your description of me in your recent podcast.

i just hate that damn light house!.

That's more a problem for Col Halt!

Ian

[Observer]

Ian
Could yo try to explain to us all why so many people don't think it was the light house but you do?
This is not a dig at you its trying to establish why you remain in the minority on this issue.
Obs

[AdrianF]

Hi Larry,
Glad to see you're getting to grips with your computer:) I have a couple of questions that I hope you can answer.
In your ATS podcast you mention the movie cameras that were present at the site and that a film cannister was taken by Mike Verrano to an awaiting F15 for dispatch to Ramstein.

In your "Left At East Gate" interview with Charles Halt, Halt states "I talked with him (Ball) when we did the NBC thing, I talked with Verrano at great length, and everything all fits together "
This would imply that Charles Halt was in agreement with a film being taken of the event and subsequently flown to Germany. And also backs up this part of your story?

Have you spoken to Mike Verrano and do you know if he has gone on record, other than anon in the 1985 CNN documentary? I only have the 1997 edition of your book as reference, but believe that he wrote you a letter which appeared in the updated version?

Cheers

Adrian

[IanR]

Ian
Could yo try to explain to us all why so many people don't think it was the light house but you do?

If I knew that then perhaps I could explain it to them better.

This is not a dig at you its trying to establish why you remain in the minority on this issue.

In a minority among whom?

Ian

[Observer]

A typical psuedo academic wriggle.

From what i see its the majority of forum members who don't believe its the light house including almost all of the American witnesses. As you are also a forum member, you are thus a minority within that group.
I have no interest in any other pro light house theorists that are not on the forum.
Obs

[John Burroughs]

Adrian
I can answer part of your question. It was not a film canister that was sent over but the recording from the radio traffic that was recorded at the command post. As far as Varino goes he was talked out of going on the record on unsolved mysteries by Halt. We were all there getting ready to do our interviews and Halt talked to him and after that he did not do his interview.

[Observer]

John
Why do you think Halt talked Varino out of doing the interview?
Obs

[John Burroughs]

Halt didnot want that brought up again because tha tape would cause allot of problems if it were realeased. It would also prove Williams had more involvement than he has stated!

[Observer]

John
Is it the retired Officers looking out for each other?
I wonder what kind of trouble?
Obs

[Wolf]

John

This is beginning to sound almost as if there is like a small clique of people who are controlling which information is released to the public. If this is true then why would they do this.

Is this simply a case of "Unlimited Financial Opportunity" or is this an ACE to save face or to cover up something else?

Also, by command post, are you referring to the HWOC (building 134) on Bentwaters or another building?

V/R

Wolf

[AdrianF]

John

Thanks for that revelation, the radio recordings would be from both nights or, I presume the night of the 27/28th events?

Adrian

[Observer]

It seems now that the radio traffic tapes from those 3 nights were flown to USAF HQ Germany. It is also looking like they don't want these tapes to be heard by us or any of the public as according to John Burroughs, they might cause a problem.
Apparently Halt and Penniston are against their release for unknown reasons.
Wolf i think is on the right track in that there is a small group of people who are controlling the amount and type of information that gets released.
They have so far been very economical with their info and its my guess that there is a line that they won't cross for reasons only known to them.
I wonder who the overall director is in this?
Obs

[John Burroughs]

First of all it is very strange the way the memo was released unless they wanted it out. The tape and all of the reports went to General Gabiriel that was in the MOD files. By keeping Williams out of it and even Conrad less mistake could happen. Like what kind of follow up and what did you find out. If you notice nobody has ever commented on what happened from the top. Williams did do a interview stating Halt back door him and he never saw the memo stating if he did there were things on it that they could not defend. He acted like he had no Idea what was going on which would never happen. Plus with the Mod files stateing Gabriel came to the base again Williams would have known. I am sure Halt made copies of every thing to cover his Butt plus they had to have some kind of plan to keep things in check ie damage control. Penniston has no say in what is realeased or waht goes on. Halt just picks people who he can control and keep the story going the way he wants it! The big question is does Halt really know everthing or is he being used also? As far as Halt having the most control that is natural people almost always go and listen to the highest ranking person

[Observer]

Thanks for that John
Halt can have only two reasons for his actions and his manipulation of other witnesses. One, he knows a lot more but is under orders to keep it under wraps. Two, he possibly makes more money ouy of interviews than any one else [due to his high rank] and he is just protecting that position. Cinical i know, but i can't see any other reason.
Obs

[Wolf]

Halt just picks people who he can control and keep the story going the way he wants it!

Hi John

Does that include you?

I have posed some questions to one of the people under Halts 'control' a few years ago, and to say he was evasive would be an understatement. Actually some of the stuff I asked him was purely asked as a test and he was way off the mark on some of his responses. I sometimes wonder if certain 'names' actually had any involvement at all and aren't just playing a role in a cover up.

Or maybe its just me being suspicious....

V/R

Wolf