Kirtland AFB AUG1980 Event Mirrors RFI - 1608 SPS

[Observer]

ST
Very spooky.
Did Kirtland also have an ARRS special training facility for under cover ops? I may be wrong on this but worth a look.
Obs

[John Burroughs]

OB
There was a detachment there the 1550 ATTW Silver can you take a look at what they did and post it.

[Wolf]

"Drawing upon the experience of combat search and rescue in Southeast Asia, the Air Mobility Command activated the 1550th Aircrew Training and Test Wing (1550 ATTW) at Hill AFB, Utah, on 1 April 1971 to serve as a test center and school house for rescue aircrews and technology. Moved to Kirtland AFB on 20 February 1976, the 1550 ATTW continued training helicopter and fixed-wing aircrews. The Air Force redesignated the unit as the 1550th Combat Crew Training Wing (1550 CCTW) on 15 May 1984 and then inactivated it on 1 October 1991"

See http://www.aetc.af.mil/library/factshee ... sp?id=6179

V/R

Wolf

[Observer]

Thanks Wolf
I thought there may have been a connection with the ARRS/WB/KL but i'm not sure it is that relevant to the RFI.
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[John Burroughs]

Dig a little deeper there was also a Det there. Also they changed to the 58th Sow. OB you might be right when you stated there is a connection...

[John Burroughs]

I will give you guys a clue like OB asked. Durning the last Gulf War I was deployed to classfied location. My unit was the 410th AEW if you look it up you will see it was classfied. But if you keep looking you will findout where I was its there. Hint the mistake had to do with a AARS unit special ops that was there. It takes alot of research to break down the WEB but most of the answer are there. Let see if someone can post the AARS unit which will state where I was deployed..

[John Burroughs]

Scratch that I just went back and looked and I guess they declassified the location. But before they did the 38th ARRS had a article on it. They stated they were first in and where. The key is the special ops and OB less just say your right about ARRS being involved in someway. Kirtland is where they do there training there now called the 58th SOW. Where would you try something if you needed to work on it? They have the best people doing the training and they test there new equipment out there also. Aug 1980-DEC 1980. I am not saying they were involved but is there a possibility?

[Observer]

Hi ST & John
Thats good stuff and JB thanks for the lead, a bit more would be good.

ST, the 'landings' at Kirtland, what type of landings were they, were they the same type of landing as Rendlesham? This could have been a 'black op' training schedule at Kirtland involving the ARRS?
I havn't the time at the moment to dig that deep John, but i'm sure other guys have.

I'm beginning to think that this black op was all about deploying some sort of device to a location for a tactical reason rather than rescuing and who better to do that than the ARRS.
I now think the RFI was a case like above but they had a wee accident and it got dropped in the forest. I bet the ARRS are in there some where, the b-------s. It's beginning to take shape at last.

"I told you you wouldn't believe me if i told you"

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[robert]

http://www.astronautix.com/craftfam/starwars.htm
Project SPIKE was a 1970's suborbital conventional warhead ASAT air-launched from an F-106 interceptor. Considerable work was done from the early 1970s under the Missile and Space Defense Program. Research centered on the miniature homing vehicle (MHV) with nonnuclear kill capability. It seems to have lead to the 1980's F-15 launched ASAT of the same concept.

http://www.astronautix.com/craftfam/starwars.htm

In May 1978, the US Joint Chiefs of Staff issued a priority list of potential Soviet target satellites for the MHV hit-to-kill ASAT then under development. The Chiefs also directed that work on begin on a "conventional ASAT", a low-risk alternative system using off-the-shelf technology. This system, employing pellets as its kill mechanism, was intended as a backup in case the MHV ran into technical or cost problems.


The $9 million High Energy Research and Technology Facility (HERTF) at Kirtland Air Force Base, New Mexico, was designed to develop weapons using high-power microwaves (HPM), high-energy advanced pulsed power (including explosive-pumped devices), and very- high-energy plasmas. Such weapons could disrupt or destroy electronic equipment aboard satellites by irradiation from directed energy sources. It may be used for ASAT experiments. Reports suggest it may constitute a covert operational ASAT system.

The facility was located in a remote canyon in the Manzano Mountains in the south-east portion of Kirtland. It was designed to withstand blasts and intense radiation. The facility had a four-story-high bay laboratory, 25 m by 45 m, with concrete roof and walls 1.3 m thick. Up to 450 kg of high explosive could be detonated in an area below the high bay to produce hundreds of megajoules of electrical energy needed for advanced experiments.

[Observer]

This very test facility featured in a Discovery channel program called 'Future Weapons' which was part of a series. They drove a car under the EMP grid and gave it a huge pulse which apparently fried the vehicles electronic systems stopping it dead. The program went on to say that to do that required a huge amount of electricity which i can't remember. They said that this is the only test facility with that much power to do that other than exploding a nuclear weapon. However, even this very powerful EMP test rig had a short range of less that a hundred yards. EMP effect on electronics from a nuclear detonation depending on its yield and altitude can be be up to a 100 miles and more.
This EMP rig was filmed in 2001 and they said that it would be a few years before a usable weapon could be developed from there experiments.
Just digressing for a moment, did you know that all Russian military aircraft were fitted with valve radio gear rather than solid state as valve transmitters and receivers were immune to EMP.
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[John Burroughs]

Here you go and they also were working on EMP I have always wonder if there is some kind of connection!

[stephan]

that sign in the picture looks superimposed/ edited

[puddlepirate]

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[John Burroughs]

What ever happened to Robert he always came up with some really good stuff!