FATIMA EVENTS

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FATIMA EVENTS

Postby Kalinoux » Sun Mar 18, 2007 6:50 pm

Hello,

Did you hear about the 3 books written by 2 portuguees : Joaquim Fernandez and Fina d'Armada :

This is the first one :

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This is the second one :

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On Amazon web site, you can find the following editorial review

Editorial Reviews

Book Description
Did the Jesuits conceal evidence of alien contact at Fátima? The Fátima incident was the most exceptional religious event of the 20th century. In 1917, three Portuguese children encountered a radiant woman, who told them three secrets about the fate of the Earth. During "The Miracle of the Sun," the solar orb was seen to dance in the sky by thousands of awestruck onlookers who flocked to Fátima. The apparitions were presumed to be a case of divine intervention in human affairs, a sign from Heaven that the world war then raging in Europe would soon come to an end. A shrine sprang up at Fátima that drew millions of believers, and a myth grew that the Fátima prophecies would one day be fulfilled as a testament of faith in a secular age. In 1978, Portuguese historians Joaquim Fernandes and Fina d'Armada were given unprecedented access to the original records of the Fátima incident, which had been held secretly by the Church in archives located at the Sanctuary of Fátima since 1917. In Heavenly Lights - a work hailed by the Fortean Times (UK) as "priceless" - Fernandes and d'Armada explored the many intriguing linkages they discovered in the secret archives between the apparitions of Fátima and the worldwide UFO phenomenon. Here, for the first time, they tell the esoteric history of the "cover story" concocted by the Church in 1941, which has both shaped our modern view of the Fátima incident and obscured its true significance as the first major close encounter case of the 20th century. At the heart of the matter, they reveal, lies a conspiracy by the Jesuits to suppress the fact that the entities encountered by the children at Fátima were not deities descending from Heaven but rather alien beings visiting our planet from "elsewhere" in the vast Cosmos. Illustrated (64 b/w photos, drawings, etc.)


Ans this is the third one :

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Comments on the book :

The Fátima incident was an important event in the literature of extraordinary human experience. Believers and skeptics have long pondered the identity of Our Lady of Fátima, the brilliant lady who appeared above Cova da Iria in 1917.

Was she the Virgin Mary, sharing divine secrets to those who would believe? Was she an angel, bringing a message of peace to a world made weary by war? Or was she an alien, inspiring humanity to look up and contemplate the heavens?

Now, in Fátima Revisited, an international panel of distinguished academicians and Ufologists subjects the legendary apparitions of Fátima – so long regarded as a sacred religious event – to the scrutiny of modern scientific analysis.

Fátima Revisited explores the relationship between encounters with Marian apparitions, angels, and aliens, and proposes a new paradigm for such phenomena that goes beyond the traditional confines of religion, anthropology, and sociology.

The third volume in The Fátima Trilogy that includes the acclaimed Heavenly Lights and Celestial Secrets, this anthology is the result of a multidisciplinary study by the [b]MARIAN Project -- the Multicultural Apparitions Research International Academic Network -- which is coordinated by Dr. Joaquim Fernandes at University Fernando Pessoa, in Porto, Portugal.


And here, you'll find an interview of the 2 authors by Jerry Pippin :

:arrow: jerry_pippin_Fatima

Do someone hear about Fatima events, "revisited version" ?
What do you think about it ?

I'll put a complete topic on our french web site, but I would like to know if people here, read those books or have any information about ?

Have a nice evening,

Kalinoux :wink:
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Postby Kalinoux » Thu Mar 22, 2007 8:17 pm

Hello,

Well, I didn't read the 3 books I mentionned above, but anyway I tried to find information about those events

I – The events (1-2)

May 1917 the 13th, three children, in charge of having a look on the sheeps in Fatima village, suddenly saw a lightning in the sky. At the same time, a "lady" appeared, as hanginfg in the air, above a oak.
Then, this lady made the following declaration : in the next 6 following months, she’ll come back every month, at the same date and in the same place.
She planned her last visit on the October 1917, the 13th. On that day, she would reveal to the children who she really was and what she was expecting.
Up to the october 13th, the "lady" appeared once a month to the three children.
Information began to spread over all the country and one rumour began to be exagerated : "one miracle was planned to take place in Fatima". This led a crowd of 50000 people to come to the place where "apparition" should take place, 1917 october the 13th. It was the sixth and last apparition.
People must note that all appritions happened with a parallel phenomena : "the dance of the sun"

These are web links (but ...
[1] - http://www.ldi5.com/d/dnews.php
G. Pinon - Fatima, un OVNI pas comme les autres ?

[2] - http://www.ldi5.com/d/dnews.php

NB : here :arrow: Photo, you'll see a photo of people looking at the sky during the sighting on the october 13th, 1917.

... to be continued

Kindly,

Kalinoux
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Postby Kalinoux » Fri May 25, 2007 3:03 pm

Hello,

To go on with Fatima events, I think it's necessary to introduce the children, who are the main witnesses of the events :

II - The children

here : :arrow: The children

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We just can say it really seems there very normal shepperds ....

Kalinoux ...
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Postby Kalinoux » Fri May 25, 2007 3:16 pm

Hello,

The topic of Fatima has been discussed on mailing lists recently and it was very intereresting to get some few feed back from people who read the 3 books.

see here :arrow: Discssion about Fatima

As you probably already understoof, Fatima is one of my favourite topic.

I don't say that this sighting was a Ufo sighting, but at least, we must recognize that a lot of questions remain unanswered.

If you have ideas how it could be possible to go deeper in this topic, I would be glad to discuss about it with you.

Kind regards,

Kalinoux :wink:
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A Historical context for Rendlesham witnesses . . .

Postby unMutual » Mon May 12, 2008 10:10 pm

The incident at Fatima shares a common theme with the incident at Rendlesham. One shared theme is the variations in the witness testimonies. There were several thousand witnesses of the event in 1917. It is very difficult to find the transcripts of two witnesses that shared the same account of what happened that day.

I have ordered the first book that you mentioned and will post my thoughts at a later date . . .
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