30th Anniversary Conference discussion/Binary Code [merged]

[Frank]

The first information starts coming in..

http://www.uforesearchnetwork.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=anouncements&action=display&thread=1593&page=1

Excerpts:

"I have just returned from the Rendlesham conference, this was filmed by the discovery channel to be broadcast in 2-3 weeks, but an important piece of information came out, sgt Jim Penniston touched the ufo and he was some how given a download of info, this he wrote down and 12 pages of binary numbers was the result, he has had them looked into and the findings will be broadcast on the 30/12/10 no info but it will be available online, the whole conference moaned when he refused to tell what the message was, especially as he had said the whole thing was covered up and they were lied to, the only thing I could think was a contract has been signed with a media company and they want first disclosure."

"the Binary papers were kept by Jim Penniston until october this year, he had a meeting with John Burrows in Austin Texas to discuss the conference, they both stated that they have not had any contact with the other parties involved due to high level interference one being col Halt, so he's only just dug them out and had them translated into a message, pope apologised for his disinfo but that was his job then"

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Admin - Other forums are discussing the same topic, here are some links for reference:

• Abovetopsecret.com
• Bentwaters1980 forum

[Admin]

Thank you, Frank.

he wrote down and 12 pages of binary numbers was the result

I assume that this is the 'full disclosure' mentioned by Jim and John earlier in the year. Very interesting, let's see where this goes...

[Daniel]

This interesting as always. Guess it isn't that easy to decypher the numbers. Did anyone make a recording of the conference?

[alienshitstorm]

there was plenty of people with cam corders big and small , im sure there must be lots who did
just ashame that when that lady asked john to say what part of the code was he just said you would have to wait till the 30th....bit gutting but should be able to view Alien Messengers tomoz with any luck..

[Essexufo]

I can understand everyone wanting this crucial binary code message from Pennistion but there are some important negative and positives to come out of this. There were a number of journalists present and could you imagine them not exposing this and reaping the rewards? For anyone who has had the displeasure of dealing with journo's they really are lower than a rattlesnakes belly and will go to any lengths to get their story. Their reputation is well deserved so in some respects I can understand Jim's reluctance to give them any kind of exclusivity. On the flip side a couple of the audience did get their teeth into Penniston as regards to not knowing a)what binary code was and it's significance b)not disclosing this before. Putting this in perspective Penniston has information that allegdly has come from either ET or from time travellers. This would be one of the most explosive cornerstones in human history. The general public and sceptics alike will have a problem with this without doubt. I respect Pennistons reluctance to come forward with this. He has had to consider his career and family and the timing has to be right for him and not other people. Repect to the guys who took time to speak and disclose the info at the conference. It was incredibly interesting and as someone who has seen and photographed objects at Rendlesham forest we could well be inching closer to the truth. Thanks to all the speakers.

[Frank]

From Earthfiles.com (by Linda Moulton Howe):

"Back in 1997, Penniston told me that he deliberately left out the most significant part about reaching out to touch the symbols on the glowing, triangle-shaped craft and receiving information in his mind. Apparently the intelligence agents knew Sgt. Penniston wasn’t telling the full truth and gave him a release to sign so he could be given sodium pentothal."

Binary code basically means 'a bunch of numbers'. They can mean anything.
And John Burroughs never saw Jim writing anything while he was near the craft. Did they discuss the differences between John and Jim's memories by the way?

[Daniel]

I hope we can see the binary numbers and not just the translation, if there is one.

[Frank]

I hope we can see the binary numbers and not just the translation, if there is one

Yes, and I hope he finally scans all notebook pages and puts them on the web for all to see and investigate.
He also told about a forensic investigation of his notebook earlier on this forum. Maybe he can publish these results, too?
After all, they promised "full disclosure" ...

[Frank]

More info from http://www.uforesearchnetwork.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=anouncements&thread=1593&page=1#3152

About Jim writing down the binary code:
"If I recall correctly he just had an urge to write them down within a few days, he didn't know what he was writing down, he boxed them away as he thought it was insignificant."

About the publication:
"The relevant documentary is due to be shown on the History Channel in the USA at at 9/8c tomorrow, 30 December 2010.
The relevant documentary is part of a series entitled "Ancient Astronauts". The relevant episode of that series is entitled "Alien Messengers".
The website for the History Channel has a section devoted to this series which includes an ability to watch the last episode so we should be able to watch the relevant episode from tomorrow at the link below:
http://www.history.com/shows/ancient-aliens "

[Frank]

And here's a nice summary from Dave Hodrien, Birmingham UFO Group Chairman/Investigator (http://www.bufog.com), that was posted on the Bentwaters1980 forum:

"Peter Robbins began with a short introductory talk
about the case in general and why it could not have
been the result of certain things (the usual arguments
against it - lighthouse, meteorite, and some of the more
recent claims such as a burning fertilizer truck). At the
end of his talk he got Larry Warren up on stage as well
to thank him for what he had done for the case.

Next up was Linda Moulton Howe, who spoke mostly
of the recent regressions of both John and Jim and
the possibility that more happened to them on the 1st
night than just a close encounter. Obviously this depends
on how you feel about regression in the first place, but
there were numerous signs that John, possibly both of
them had been abducted.

After a short break it was then time to welcome both
John and Jim to the stage. I found them both to be very
believable in their account of what took place, they seemed
to certainly be talking from the heart and I would certainly
dispute the idea that they are making up their encounters
with the strange glowing lights/craft in the forest. They
also spoke of something new which is about to break with
the case, 8 pages of binary numbers that were apparently
"downloaded" into Jim's head. Probably many of you will
have already heard of this, and I apologise if someone's
already mentioned it elsewhere on here, but it's the first
I'd heard about it. If you haven't heard of this already,
apparently the binary numbers translate to some kind of
message which is going to be revealed in a History channel
documentary airing tomorrow.

This caused some backlash from the crowd who questioned
why it was only coming out now so long after the incident,
a valid point to make of course, but Jim!
's answers to this seemed reasonable enough. Plus someone
has tested the note paper and ink to prove he wrote it back
in 1980. They wouldn't reveal what the message was at all
(due to wanting all the evidence to be shown at once, and
also probably due to contractual obligations with the
TV company), however we've only got to wait till tomorrow
to find out.

Nick Pope gave a brief chat about the involvement of the
MOD with the case, then there was a pretty extensive Q&A
session. After that was over about 11.30pm many people then
headed out to the forest. It was very dark, cold and foggy
which added to the atmosphere I thought. The camera crew
who had been filming the conference continued filming, and
I'd say there were about 100 people present. We first headed
for the East Gate, where Jim and John shared with everyone
how they had first caught sight of the lights in the forest.
We then backtracked to the edge of the trees by the visitors
car park, where they continued to talk about their approach
to the object and what they remembered taking place."

[alienshitstorm]

does anyone know if the video of the event has come online yet:?

[Admin]

Plus someone has tested the note paper and ink to prove he wrote it back in 1980.

Good. This is very important. If so, debunkers can no longer imply that Penniston's notebook was fabricated. However, who undertook the analysis? Where is the documentation?

[time4truth]

Regarding the Binary Numbers.. I read a book by Dan Sherman "Above Black" project Preserve Destiny.An account by a USAF soldier who for 3 years was an Intuitive Comunicater- he received and wrote down sets of Binary Numbers from Greys..These were Time,Date,Longditude and Latitude Co Ordinates wth reference no`s OF WHO AND WHERE PEOPLE ARE BEING ABDUCTED FROM-and their pain threshold and nerve response andPotential for RECALL ! Dan Sherman suggests the Greys are on a Higher PLANE-(different dimension??) Blows my mind! BUT..could this be what Penniston Received to his brain? Sorry long post..

[1980]

Plus someone has tested the note paper and ink to prove he wrote it back in 1980.

Good. This is very important. If so, debunkers can no longer imply that Penniston's notebook was fabricated. However, who undertook the analysis? Where is the documentation?

Origin and history of documents
One of the most frequently requested examinations is to determine the date when a particular signature or piece of writing was made. Sadly, there are no reliable techniques for dating ink on paper despite the efforts of forensic scientists over the last thirty years. Once an ink line is made on a piece of paper, certain volatile components of the ink disperse into the atmosphere – much effort has been made to determine the rate at which these volatile components do so over time. For example phenoxyethanol present in ballpoint pen ink decreases very rapidly immediately after writing and then more slowly over a longer period. However, by two years there are unlikely to be any measurable changes in the amount of this compound in the ink – any realistic estimate of the age of ink can only be carried out within two years of its writing. That said, this remains a highly controversial area since some inks release phenoxyethanol faster than others and the rate of release is also dependent on the conditions under which the document is stored: one stored at high temperature will ‘age’ much more rapidly than those kept at lower temperatures. At this time no forensic document examiners in the United Kingdom carry out ink dating services. Indeed, there are very few laboratories worldwide that carry out this work at all. There are a few in the United States but not all of these can be considered as reliable.
http://www.stepjournal.org/default.aspx?page=2164

[Essexufo]

Have to agree that the binary code aspect could destroy credibility of all the testimonies as a lot of people are going to find it difficult to accept. let's be honest if you were the NSA or other security agency it would be logical to leak and publicise something so extraordinary it will turn people off from believing the whole story. Mark - Southend UFO Group

[nebula200]

Here are the links to view the Ancient Aliens programme (with the message decoded):

part 1 @ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWxLcD...
part 2 @ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yHRyq...
part 3 @ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpvESh...

enjoy!

[Frank]

Thanks, nebula200!

Unfortunately the links were incomplete, so I'll repeat them here:

First half of part 1 and last half of part 3 contain the Rendlesham case.

HOWEVER: Look carefully at part three, point 12:32 where the computer screen scrolls from the binary code to the "decoded message".
You'll see that there is an encoded message in between that merely contains a more or less random mix of characters. Above it it says: "Decodes to:". So the binary numbers basically decode to a random mix of characters (I assume using ASCII or Unicode). Below that mix the screen says: "Possible message (removing noise and errors):" and below it is the message presented by the History Channel. In other words: It takes a lot of human interpretation (some would say phantasy) to arrive at the message presented by the History Channel ...
This does not mean I do not believe Jim wrote down an mental image of 0's and 1's. It only means that interpreting them as ASCII or Unicode characters is not very succesfull in my opinion.

[nebula200]

Doh! When I tried them they worked! Thanks for reposting

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[Daniel]

I surely hope we can obtain the sequence of binary numbers that Jim has. I don't feel it's going to be that easy to decypher a sequence that may not be machine code related.

This message feels very subjective and translated to fit the decoders beliefs. For all we know this craft could have been trying to communicate through electrical pulses, or if it's machine code related, it could be using a future revision of the ASCII chart or using (future) CPU OPcodes to communicate with the object it normally comes in contact with. The message may just be the craft's identification in machine readable form.

Binary could be seen as a really basic form of communication that could be translated into almost anything.

Daniel