UFOs seen over Stratford, UK

[Observer]

Hi All

I saw in the Sunday Mirror dated August 5th 2007 on page 11 a huge list of UFO sightings with dates and times released by the MOD.

The article is headed 'THE REAL X FILES'

None of the reports are in depth but a spokesman for the Civil Aviation Authority said that in most cases they can be explained with only a tiny handful unexplained.

Observer

[Deep Purple]

Looks like the photos linked to the Belgium Triangle UFO flap.
Could be top secret US aircraft TR3a Black Manta, can apparently hover but then reach mach 9!
Good photo. Any one nearby to trawl for witnesses see if there is another side to the story?

What do people think?

[Observer]

Hi Deep purple

I know a bit about the Black Manta.[project Aurora] Its the new spy plane that the US has been developing.
Its concept is 'wave riding' [ a British idea by Barnes Wallace] and is powered by a form of pulse jet. I've not heard about its capability to hover. The Belgiun air force and government asked the US if it was 'them' flying over their country as they didn't see why there was a need. The US said it was not them. Mind you they could be lying but i don't think they would do that to a fellow NATO member and friendly country.

To my simple mind, you don't advertise a top secret hypersonic stealthy spy plane with a blaze of lights!!

Observer

[Deep Purple]

I've done a bit of digging about the TR3 and this was one of the descriptions:-

"The Black Manta, TR-3, an aircraft that supposively doesn’t exist has the ability to hover silently. There are said to be two very different versions, the TR-3A and the TR-3B. The first is supposed to be about 45 feet long and 15 feet high, with a 65 foot wingspan. The second is said to be a massive 600 feet across.

This black project allegedly is a tactical reconnaissance aircraft and has an outer coating that reacts to electrical radar stimulation and can change reflectiveness, radar absorptiveness, and color. This super stealth aircraft is said to be able to fly as high as 125,000 feet and travel as fast as Mach 9!"

Other articles indicated that it is used with the f117a for acquiring targets in real time.
If it was the plane over Stratford it may have been carrying out some kind of testing or electronic sampling. As know one really knows what it is I'm not so sure that they would worry to much if people see a strange lights as the UFO cover story comes nicely into play.
I dont think the yanks would worry too much about what the Belgium Authorities thought. "They havent got any oil , who cares" might be the approach they would take
Certainly we have seen very similar pictures of UFOs before.
I'll do some digging see if there is anything else I can come up with

[Observer]

Hi Deep Purple

Yes please keep digging. I have looked at most of the web sites concerning the Aurora project and the TR-3. Most i fear are just conjecture. Nick Cooke and a Mr Sweetman are probably the best two guys to look at re this plane.

Now here is some thing very interesting that occurred about 5 years ago between the Pentagon and the MOD.

A huge black flying triangle was seen mid Atlantic by several merchant ships. Two of which were US and GB ships. They reported respectfully to their own authorities the sighting.

The MOD contacted the Pentagon asking if they knew anything about it and was it theirs.
The surprising reply was that the Pentagon said, we thought it was one of yours!

That tiny little exchange between the Pentagon and the MOD carries some very concealed and interesting dialog. Its what was not said that is so loaded.
Think about it.

Regards

Observer

[Deep Purple]

Hi Observer,
I had heard about Triangular UFO and ships event, and the comment the Pentagon is I suspect them doing their usual deny everything. I found this link
http://robocat.users.btopenworld.com/tr3b.htm

Have a look , certainly looks like the same light pattern. So it looks like a TR3b and not a TR3a. Trouble is some of these links could contain all sorts of rubbish. However the sighting in Stratford sounds genuine as it is in a National Newspaper, but obviously we dont have access to their source to confirm witness details or view any other photos taken at the time.
I have emailed the Daily Mail under the link suggesting it might be a TR3B US spy plane, see if they pick it up and run with it!
Would be interesting to run it past Nick Cooke or Bill Sweetman, but I have never met either or had any contact with them. I have seen them on the TV

[Observer]

Hi Deep Purple

Good idea re the Daily Mail, they ran an article a couple of years ago with a very indistinct photo of a dart shaped aircraft seen over the North Yorkshire moors, with the caption, is this Britains new stealth spy plane? And no it it was not the Eurofighter.

I do know that GB have been working on stealth technology second generation systems which involves spectrum light waves. This not only makes the plane invisible to RADAR but also to the naked eye [Project HALO]. The government denies that they have gone any further with the project and it was only a concept exercise.

As for the US denying every thing, well GB are more involved than most people think as RAF Machrihanish in Scotland was used for years as a staging post for US stealth aircraft and there is no reason to think this has changed with current US technology.

We have BAe systems pulling out of Airbus so they can concentrate on collaborative military projects with the US which are un specified at the moment.

I also know that in a defence white paper some few years ago, the MOD said that the RAF needed a medium range/ medium sized bomber/reconnaissance aircraft.
The F-35 or Eurofighter will not fill this role.

Keep digging

Best regards

Peter