claims that UFO struck wind turbine

[winkeech]

Hi Guys,
Just a few details that may or may not be of help - My friend Russ Kellett was one of the first to look into this ... he has had more than 30 sighting reports covering the days before and on this prang. It seems something, nearly always travelling as a pair of objects (one directly above the other) and described as being from the size of a house to the size of a hot air balloon, had been operating over the York, Doncaster, SE Yorks region. Witnesses have described bright orange lights turning red and occasionaly conical lights shining downward. Many have described the object/objects seperating and even exploding as it headed South towards Lincs. So far witnesses have sent in two mobile phone clips, one photograph and some camcorder footage. From the clip I have enhanced, there is indeed two objects, one dark and one illuminated by orangey yellow light - no flickering or other lantern indications - ... and indeed they are seen to slowly seperate on the clip.
Personally I consider that some sort of uav has been in operation and that over the populated areas it was escorted by another aircraft, one illuminated to distract attention from the other. Over the usual training airspace of North Lincs. it carried out test missions (I underwent my basic RAF flight training in that area - it is flat, riddled with old WW2 bomber squadron airstrips and not too much to fly into - apart from our American friends and the odd mast/turbine).
The suggested uav is a bit on the small side to survive such a prang unscathed - it weighs around 8 tonnes and is the size of a Hawk, so a 30 odd ft wingspan. If this had hit, there should have been bits all over the site. Having filmed a similar craft over Whitby (just up the coast from Lincs) at night, operating over the N. Sea and turning above the street lights of Whitby ... except much, much bigger - infact, the size of an oil tanker, or twice the size of Whitby Abbey as it overflew it (completely filling the camcorder screen at 7 miles and 20x zoom) methinks there are some slightly more sizeable, similar aircraft out there, which must be fully operational by now. Increased Ruskie incursions along the coast of recent date may have a bearing on this. The big one I filmed seemed engaged in coastal patrol at that time. Incidentaly, the lighting on that one, had a distinctly Boeing style to it.

Russ did interview the couple who live opposite the windfarm - the light they saw was earlier than the collision. The collision was around 4 am, but many and various lit objects had been seen in the area that night. Russ also interviewed one of the engineers that found the blade ... he wouldn't say where it was found, but implied that it wasn't close to the turbine.
The odd thing that he did say was that the first thing they did was cover it in a tarpauline (blade and rotor) ... that's a big tarp to have lying around, bearing in mind, this blade is half as long again as a 40ft flatbed truck.

It is very interesting, doesn't look like a simple blade fracture, seeing how much deformation there is to the second blade and yet that didn't seperate seems an indication - and that none of the remaining 19 turbines have been shut down for inspection would seem to rule out a stress lifing problem.

Will let you know if anymore comes out, but that's all we know 'oop North' at the mo,
best wishes, Win.

[redsocks]

I think a UAV is feasable and agree that Lincolnshire is used for various testing because of its somewhat remoteness,plenty of MOD installations and the proximity to the wash which is frequently used by the RAF as a flight run and also used as a dummy bomb drop,didnt the RAF lose part of a dummy practise bomb in Lincolnshire that they were using to drop into the wash a few years back? what I am trying to get at is that this area seems to have a lot of various military activity going on.


Redsocks

[puddlepirate]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstop ... tists.html

The article above mentions that the turbines are fitted with sensors to turn them off should ice be detected on the blades. Also, from the image shown in the article it can be seen that the second blade was struck about 1/3 of its length from the tip and as a result was bent back from a point about halfway along its length. A tarpaulin has been placed over the stub of the broken blade. The blades are 65ft in length. The article also states that no debris other than that from the broken blade was found at the site (which appears to have been contracdicted in the report posted by Win). Oddly some images shown the second blade apparently deformed in a wave like pattern but the image in the Telegraph article above shows the blade to be bent in one place only....

Perhaps the sensor failed. Ice wasn't detected so the turbine continued to rotate. The first blade fractured, falling back against the second...

it will be interesting to see what the German forensic analysts come up with...

[winkeech]

Hiya Silvertop,
... sorry but I have no firm news on any other debris - the company is understandably staying quite tight lipped about it - as the locals aren't too happy about the turbines being there in the first place.
All the enginer would say was that they'd found the blade etc. He did express the opinion that they may be able to take samples with traces of what hit it off the blade, but hadn't done that at the time that Russ spoke with him.
Incidentaly, it wasn't as cold up here as the rest of the country at that time - which is usually the opposite way around. I'd just returned from North Wales where it was pretty icy and was shocked to find hardly a trace of frost up here.
I did download the NOAA18/15 weather sat images for the passes around the time of the incident and there is some thin low level cloud cover at the time ... and a curious thermal IR area of light around louth on the 5-39am pass ... might be nothing, but it was on all 3 TH IR channels and isn't on subsequent passes.
I can't really understand why they've suggested a developmental uav unless it was one that really is secret that has clobbered it ... why not just say it was an ordinary training flight that has hit it and use that as a good reason to stop more of the things popping up where you are training?
Sorry ST - that's all we have about the debris.
He did say that the blade was fiberglass though, if that's any help.
best wishes,
Win.

[winkeech]

Here's the lonk to the sat image if anyone is interested, all the best, win.
http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr173/winkeech/jan45-39noaa15nirch3.jpg

[redsocks]

Interesting that you say winkeech that the blade was fiberglass,the damage to the blade still left on the turbine looks like twisted metal http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/St ... 199432.jpg
would fiberglass hitting fiberglass cause damage like this,but then if something flying hit the second blade and it was fiberglass it must have just been a glancing blow.I was baseing my assumptions that one blade hit the other on them being metal but now you have said they are not the mystery deepens.Still think the Germans will have the answer though.

[winkeech]

Hiya Redsocks,
I reckon you are probably right - simply a case of who admits to what bumping into it.

When I saw the first photos I presumed it would be aluminium too, judging by the deformation on the second blade ... but seeing it from a different angle you can clearly see delamination along its length near the buckling point, so I wasn't so suprised when the engineer confirmed it to be fibreglass.
... just suprised it took them so long to find the blade - it must be even untidier there than my house!
all the best,
Win.

[puddlepirate]

Yes, it is a surprise to learn that the blades are made of fibreglass. Once set, fibreglass will usuall break if stressed (see impact damage to leisure craft and Reliant Robins... ). The second blade is bent but in the images there is no sign of a fracture at the bend, either in the area of tension on the outer face of the bend or compression in the elbow of the bend. The blade has parted along the seam - which is also odd. I would have expected a fibreglass blade to have been a seamless single moulding not two halves built around a frame and joined.

[puddlepirate]

Just taken a slo-mo look at the video clip posted previously. If you stop it at the point where the turbine disintegrates, one blade is bent at right angles and another has broken off almost at its root..... the third blade disintegrates and the pylon explodes - and the structure, or at least part of it, appears to be made of fibreglass. Pieces are flung everywhere.

The damage to the turbine in the video clip was due to overspeed in apparently high winds (judging from the soundtrack) - could this be what happened? A freak gust of wind - a localised tornado or something like that, in a vary narrow band that hit only one turbine causing it to rotate beyond its design speed and partially disintegrate?

[puddlepirate]

Win

I should have included this in my previous post.... you mentioned

and a curious thermal IR area of light around louth on the 5-39am pass ... might be nothing, but it was on all 3 TH IR channels and isn't on subsequent passes.

presumably this was created by a heat source and as the image wasn't there later on, then it had either moved on or shut down.

Be a bit of a hoot if the exhaust jet blast from some kind of black project UAV accidentally spun the turbine too fast.....or some joker thought it might be fun to see what would happen if they aimed it at the turbine. I can just imagine Biggles and Algy having wizard fun causing an almighty prang at that wind farm thingy. Gosh, Ginge's prank nearly downed that blasted secret kite belonging to old 'Bodger' Harrington and damn near gave the whole show away. a pretty close run thing, I can tell you! Luckily we only beat up a turbine... doubt if anyone will notice.

[winkeech]

Ah yes, Biggles!
... I should have known! ... I remember the quote from the film "Biggles - adventures in time" Algie turns to Biggles and says "Biggles are we going up in your flying windmill!?" ... that's it! mystery solved!!

Bertie and Ginger probably dragged the blade away to confuse the blasted Hun!!

... it all becomes clear now!

best wishes,
Win.

[winkeech]

It doesn't get any better than this! if we could bottle this we'd still have an empire ... here are the words from the man himself ... Biggles. One presumes that the 'Hun' are the German boffins that built the turbine.

Enjoy! ...I can feel my back straighten as I watch, Win.

here's the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvxQm5o1XfE

(couldn't resist posting it on youtube!)

[puddlepirate]

I say! Look here, chaps. The hun have captured the bally turbine and are taking it to their secret hideout! There's only one thing for it....... Algy, Bertie, Ginge! We've got to get airborne and damned fast. Can't have those fellows hiding the evidence, what! Tally Ho!

Cue Dambusters theme. Cue Wingco looking at the departing Spitfires. Cue concerned WRAFs thinking of Johnny......and wondering why on earth they've chosen the Spits from the museum over the perfectly serviceable Tornados parked on the apron. And what the blazes was that dodgy pilotless device they seemed to be escorting into the air?

[time4truth]

Puddle p and Winkeech YOU ARE SOOO FUNNY !! love it...xxx

[time4truth]

Seriously tho, do u think we will be told what happened??.... huh silly me !!

[puddlepirate]

Once the German lab has determined the cause they might make an announcement but to be honest, I doubt we will hear anything more about it. It was newsworthy for a couple of days but if it transpires that there was a fault in the blade or the ice sensor had failed or something like that, then it won't generate much interest. At best there might be something in the local news but that's probably about all.

[redsocks]

Once the German lab has determined the cause they might make an announcement but to be honest, I doubt we will hear anything more about it. It was newsworthy for a couple of days but if it transpires that there was a fault in the blade or the ice sensor had failed or something like that, then it won't generate much interest. At best there might be something in the local news but that's probably about all.

ahh but then again if it is something strange I suppose we'll still not hear anything...........

[redsocks]

Anybody heard anything on the wind turbine incident,surely they must have found a cause by now why the secrecy??

[winkeech]

Nothing much new Redsocks,
seems they took the blade away with cranes and a flatbed last week ... not much more reported, although still some ufo activity this last few weeks over yorkshire - reports still coming in of two craft one dark saucer shaped and one glowing yellow the size of a house ... very similar to the two I filmed overflying fylingdales in the middle of august ... you can see that here at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sgXjXk2bmE&feature=channel_page ... apologies for the quality - it's sod's law that you don't have a tripod with you - but luckily I did have my sony vx2100 in the car, which is about as good as it gets for night time colour video. I took a short clear section of the video and did a framestack enhancement to reduce the noise and bring out hidden detail ... and it clearly shows two dark objects surrounded by a large orange glow
... i suspect it is some form of radar foxing technology. It must be said that they moved unusually slowly and maintained close formation. No noise at all and visible right over to Scarborough, which is twelve miles across the moors from there.
Here's the framestack

all the best,
Win.

[DoRayEgon]

Well the report has been out since midnight i can't beleive no-one has botherd to post it
The bolts holding the blade on failed. really, really shocked no-one was interested in the outcome (heavy sarcasm there by the way)
The remaining bolts have been passed as safe unless aliens fly down and weaken those as well with thier bolt weakening ray
Cue screams of "it's a cover up man, the man don't want us to know" ect ect ect.