Halt colour blind?

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Re: Halt colour blind?

Postby IanR » Sun Dec 19, 2010 11:11 am

John Deckie wrote:If Halt passes an eye test with flying colours (pardon the pun) , then the lighthouse comes crashing down with Ian inside it! (metaphorically speaking Ian dont worry!)

But that would not change the fact that the men with him saw the light as yellow and pointed out that fact to him at the time. What we are seeking is an answer to the anomaly of why the light appeared yellow to the others but red to Halt.

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Re: Halt colour blind?

Postby Frank » Mon Dec 20, 2010 4:52 pm

IanR wrote:What we are seeking is an answer to the anomaly of why the light appeared yellow to the others but red to Halt.


It appeared yellow to Englund and Halt saw a yellow tinge in it, too, so the anomaly is not as big as it seems.

My take on the explanation for this (but you will disagree of course :wink: )

There are several color descriptions of the first light(s) that Halt saw, both in his memo and on his tape:

A strange small red light.
Some kind of strange flashing red light.
A red sun-like light that pulsed.
Pulsating a glow with a red flash.
Yeah, it’s yellow.
I saw a yellow tinge in it, too.


If you combine them you get:
'A red/yellow sun-like light, pulsating a glow with a red flash, that looks like a small flashing red light from a distance'.

Note that John describes the light he saw on the first night as “red & orange”, and Lori Buoen compared the light she saw on the second night to a mixture of three different colors of fire.
So they, too, were a bit confused about the exact color, or saw a mixture of colors.

Now for a bit of speculation:

“Pulsating a glow” with a mixture of colors sounds like a plasma (the red flash could be caused by a separate light source).

Why assume a plasma is involved?
A plasma is a logical consequence of radiation and strong EM fields. Together these two physical phenomena are able to create and sustain a glowing plasma since they both can ionize air and can make it glow (basically, a plasma is an ionized gas).

It is a generally accepted fact among scientist who take the 5% of unexplained UFO cases very seriously that a UFO is often accompanied by a plasma sheath and that this plasma sheath is related to radiation and/or EM fields emitted by the UFO. See for instance http://www.iprimus.ca/~mallet/paulrhill.shtml and http://www.nicap.org/ufology/ufochap3.htm

In the RFI, both radiation and strong EM fields are reported near the UFO(s) observed. The residual radiation left in the ground may not be very strong, but residual radiation is only left by very ‘hard’ radiation, i.e., radiation with very high energy photons (such as gamma rays). The residual radiation does not tell anything about the amount of ‘soft’ radiation (such as X-rays) that the ground was exposed to, because 'soft' radiation does not leave any residual radiation (only heat). The reported health effects by the witnesses plus the reported ‘fogged’ photographs do indicate that the UFO was a considerable source of radiation.

So just like many other UFO cases, the RFI shows the ingredients for plasma forming and the observations made by the witnesses also indicate plasma forming was involved.

A glowing plasma can explain the fact that Halt and his men were not sure about the exact color (red or yellow), because the plasma contains a mixture of colors that is constantly changing and the color perception strongly depends on the plasma intensity (see vids and pictures in my posts above). On top of that, the plasma may become more intense and/or the color may change if the UFO ‘powers up’ to approach the men. This seems to be the case on Halt’s tape: The yellow color and brightening of the light is mentioned just before the men report that the object is coming their way.
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Re: Halt colour blind?

Postby John Deckie » Mon Dec 20, 2010 5:12 pm

Good stuff Frank.. I think we all need to take a holiday to Hessdalen for some serious plasma action! Much respect to the Norweigian scientists for going about the investigation in the right way. I think they're deliberately not focussing on the ufo's because they know that unfortunately ufo reports always seem to have a stigma attached. I hope they get to the bottom of it some day. I'd love to know what Ian R's thoughts are on the Hessdalen phenomenom..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvFRLJ8F ... r_embedded
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Re: Halt colour blind?

Postby IanR » Mon Dec 20, 2010 9:04 pm

John Deckie wrote:I'd love to know what Ian R's thoughts are on the Hessdalen phenomenom..

Not much help as I'm no specialist on Hessdalen, I’m afraid, but I dare say that many factors are involved and each sighting should be taken on its own merits. There is the usual armwaving about plasmas and the like, but as far as I’m aware the only sightings that have been convincingly identified are due to celestial objects, aircraft, car headlights and mirages - in other words, the usual suspects.

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Re: Halt colour blind?

Postby Frank » Mon Dec 20, 2010 9:25 pm

I just viewed all five parts.
Ian, if you don't have the time, just view parts 4 and 5 - these are the most interesting ones.




There's also a nice description of the phenomenon on http://www.hessdalen.org/pictures/description.shtml

Some excerpts, and note the similarity between the second category and the thing Halt & his men saw:

The phenomena can be devided in these categories:
1 - White, or blue-white flashing light.
2 - A yellow light, with a red light on the top. This red light can be flashing.
3 - A yellow or white light.
4 - A black "object" with light on.

Thanks again, John - very interesting.
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Re: Halt colour blind?

Postby John Deckie » Tue Dec 21, 2010 12:32 pm

Ian - although you don't claim to know much about it you still take a skeptical view.. Is this your default 'blinkered' setting? I thought you might be interested because although ufo's have been seen maybe there is a another scientific explaination for the lights. I congratulate the scientists for approaching the subject with an open mind.
Frank - Interesting regarding the colour of the lights.. Interesting as well that they claim to have had around 20 sightings a month in the early 1980's and now its only 20 a year. So the peak of activity was at roughly the same time as the Rendlesham Incident.. Be great to know what Col. Halt, Burroughs and Pennistons thoughts are on seeing the Hessdalen video..
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Re: Halt colour blind?

Postby corij » Thu Dec 23, 2010 2:04 pm

1 in 10 men are colour blind and the very commonest is RED-GREEN colour blindness. i myself am colourblind and it is only when observing coloured lights such as Fireworks that i struggle to see the correct colour . Years ago i was in the army and anybody colour blind could not be in a battle position where flares were sent up. Same with in the navy, the red and green ship lights prevent anybody with faulty colour perception working above deck

Colour blindness among women is very rare.
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