Does anyone know anything about this one?

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Does anyone know anything about this one?

Postby puddlepirate » Tue May 06, 2008 6:00 pm

Alleged to have taken place at Bentwaters in Dec 1980 at the same time as the Rendlesham Forest sighting:

HH: October 2000

HH was stationed at the 81st Security Police Squadron at RAF Bentwaters in England during the UFO events that occurred in December 1980. She and a colleague were on duty late that night, when they saw in the distance an object they thought was a plane landing on the runway—coming in from the direction of the North Sea. They also saw it silently explode, split into three parts, and speed across the runway; then it went straight up and disappeared.
Source: http://www.detailshere.com/ufo2.htm

There's more about a similar event that took place at Woodbridge in Feb 1980 to be found here: http://twinbases.org.uk/wentback/rehfeldt.htm
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Postby puddlepirate » Tue May 06, 2008 10:43 pm

Hi Silvertop

i'm intrigued by this. Why has no-one latched on to it? It must be relevant and worth investigating. If it happened on the same night as the Penniston/Burroughs/Cabansag sighting then it must be important and very probably related to the incident in the forest. Yet it as far as I'm aware it has never been mentioned.

Apparently, a UFO executes a 'touch and go' at a major, front line USAF base at the height of the Cold War yet nobody reports anything? Most odd. What about the guys in the control tower? They must have questioned it. Unless, of course, the aircraft was expected and everyone who needed to know, which obviously did not include the SP on guard duty, knew what was going on.

According to her website and other info on the web, Lori Rehnfeldt left the USAF with the rank of captain - a commissioned officer - so surely her testimony would be reliable?
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Postby Observer » Wed May 07, 2008 4:10 pm

I think her sighting of the strange light was on a different date to the RF incident.
Her description of a weird cloud formation was probably a lenticular wave formation seen now and again over East Anglia and formed from westerly winds comming over the Chilterns, Pennines and some times off the Brecon Beacons. It can happen in winter and summer. Glider pilots love it when it occurs as they can go wave riding for hours right up to 40,000Ft plus. Information from the Norfolk & Suffolk gliding club and BGA.

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Postby puddlepirate » Wed May 07, 2008 5:03 pm

The sources suggest far more than clouds:

HH: October 2000

HH was stationed at the 81st Security Police Squadron at RAF Bentwaters in England during the UFO events that occurred in December 1980. She and a colleague were on duty late that night, when they saw in the distance an object they thought was a plane landing on the runway—coming in from the direction of the North Sea. They also saw it silently explode, split into three parts, and speed across the runway; then it went straight up and disappeared.


Source: http://www.detailshere.com/ufo2.htm
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Other events in 1980 - this time in February.

At the time when they built the barrier I was irritated because it obstructed my view of the runway and that was the only entertainment I had back then watching planes take off and land or do what they called "touch and go". They didn't build the barrier until the later part of 1980. I thought they built that barrier because it prevented the gateshack from vibrating from the piercing sonic pitch of the aircraft. I swore there were times I thought the glass plate window of my gateshack would blast out from the pressure of the loud fighter aircraft. I would often leave the door open to alleviate the pressure. Gia noticed the numerous butterflies and dragonflies. I think the insects were surprised to see humans too. As we were walking back to the car, I pointed out to Linn where Duffield and I had seen our UFO sighting. Our sighting being between the end of the runway and Folly House. Linn showed me the dirt road Penniston and Burroughs drove down to the crash site of their UFO sighting ten months after Duffield and I reported our sighting to the Desk Sergeant. Linn asked how we went from RAF Bentwaters to RAF Woodbridge. He said airmen talked about a back gate near Butley but didn't now how to get there. I thought Linn's question had an easy answer but we couldn't find the entrance to Butley Gate.


Source: http://twinbases.org.uk/wentback/rehfeldt.htm
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was stationed at the 81st Security Police Squadron at RAF Bentwaters in England during the UFO events that occurred in December 1980. She and a colleague were on duty late that night, when they saw in the distance an object they thought was a plane landing on the runway — coming in from the direction of the North Sea. They also saw it silently explode, split into three parts, and speed across the runway; then it went straight up and disappeared. … We saw this aircraft... The rate of speed that it was moving when it went across was tremendous. It was moving in like a regular aircraft, then when it stopped, it did this movement and split into three. And when sped across the runway going west, it was just going at a phenomenal speed. The only other thing that really caught our attention was that it didn’t make any noise. There was no sound to it at all. We just didn’t know what it was…

When it stopped, that’s when it made these fast movements: up, down, left, right- the movement was very geometric. I mean, it was not a normal movement. That probably threw us more than anything because it was just so, unusual. It was a lot faster than a jet plane…

He happened to be an electrical engineer for the Air Force. He said, you do know they found something out there? He said, well, we’ve been working with the plastic, with the material that we got from back then. And he said, back then it was pretty raw, but now we’ve been able to use it and to refine it. And they’ve been able to use it and it can take so many degrees of heat and temperature. He mentioned it was a gray material. But he was validating that there was something out there. And he said this material was not indigenous to here…


Source: http://ufology.wikia.com/wiki/Lori_Rehfeldt
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Postby Observer » Wed May 07, 2008 6:30 pm

It all sounds a bit paranormal to me, and the unknown plastic sounds very much like the claims by some at the Roswell incident.
None of our known witnesses have mentioned this or seen bits of debris being collected in the woods. This is all new to me. MMM.
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Postby Observer » Wed May 07, 2008 7:34 pm

Sorry folks, i've got a dose of the giggles as i now see that ready meal i bought in Tesco's in a plastic container that you put in the oven was a direct descendant of the Rendlesham Forest Incident. Sorry, Roswell.
I'm sure Dow Corning would argue this one just like Imhoffs did with the micro processor chip.
If you suggested to both these companies that their products were from back engineering of alien material, they would arrange councelling for you.
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Postby AdrianF » Wed May 07, 2008 9:05 pm

If you suggested to both these companies that their products were from back engineering of alien material, they would arrange councelling for you.


Not if you told them the aliens might sue :)

Back to Silvertop's post, very true, this wasn't followed up.
I think that post is a big clue "siting in the same location". Strange there was no follow up to her post.


Why so many sightings at the same area of Woodbridge base?


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Postby puddlepirate » Wed May 07, 2008 9:12 pm

Hence my question does anybody know anything about these events. They'd not been mentioned before - which, if they were real is surprising. What were the guys in the tower doing whilst UFO's were dropping onto their runway before shooting up into the air and exploding into parts....?

The only odd thing is that the actions of this 'craft' are somewhat similar to that of the craft observed by Lt Col Halt.

If none of our named witnesses can substantiate this or if Ms Rehfeldt is reluctant to enter the debate to provide us with a bit more info - she has posted on the forum previously - then I suggest it is best forgotten.

I only introduced this info because when I came across it I was astonished it had never been mentioned before by anyone - not in any of the books or in the witness statements. I thought we might have overlooked a key event but it appears that is not so.
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Postby Observer » Wed May 07, 2008 10:14 pm

I aggree with Puddle on this, Lori describes the antics of the lights in a very similar fashion as Halt did. I think her sightings were on another later date to Halt's which makes me think she has just aped it from Halt's earlier description.
As puddle said no body else involved in this incident has made any mention of the things she talked about in her interview.
I'm not doubting she saw a light phenomena [well maybe] but no body else has come forward and said they did as well.
Not sure this has much mileage in it.
I know, i bet she saw the light house. Keep this to yourselves, but i have it on good authority that the light house has wings.
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