Let's have a forensic analysis of Jim's notebook

[Admin]

Ian Ridpath speaking at Unconvention conference (October 2010):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YqhhMVH3Vs

In the presentation linked above, Ian mentions the fact that Jim Penniston's notebook has never undergone forensic analysis.
It can be done - ink dryness measurements can be used to give a good estimate of a handwritten document's age:
http://www.chem.siu.edu/chem439/Ink_dating.pdf

It's clear that the witnesses are tired of the lighthouse theory, but if the UFO-related pages in Jim's notebook were scientifically proven to have been made 30 years ago, where would the lighthouse theory stand?
The witnesses' return to England in December 2010 may well be useful, but a forensic analysis of the notebook offers Jim Penniston a chance to fully substantiate his account.

[Frank]

Great idea, but I'm afraid there's always a way out for a non-believer: Jim then probably fabricated his notebook right after the event to cover up his embarrasing misidentification of the lighthouse

But for the truly puzzled people on this forum it would already be very helpful to have Jim scan the pages of his notebook so that we can all have access to the information !

[stephan]

in the video Ian mentions and shows that the date on his notebook is Dec. 27th, i.e. one day later than the event actually occured (at least as far as I understood it...). So if he made the entries on the very same day it happened he would have had the date wrong. Probably the notebook itself and the paper used can also help solving the mystery.

[AdrianF]

I don't know if it would prove that Jim wrote this on the spot, but it might give an indication of the rough period of time that it was made.

[Frank]

in the video Ian mentions and shows that the date on his notebook is Dec. 27th, i.e. one day later than the event actually occured (at least as far as I understood it...). So if he made the entries on the very same day it happened he would have had the date wrong.

Stephan, I recently discussed these topics here:
http://rendlesham-incident.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=812

Your comments are welcome!

[stephan]

@ Frank, okay, if I have more on that I'll comment. Thx for the hint

[larry warren]

Im going to lay low on here cause i keep getting pissed off at stuff, and it simply isint healthy!
im going to say this, no matter how JB and JP have been spun about what happened to me and others or what they know or what they dont know, or what i know and dont know, or think i know.
Heres ONE thing i know for sure, Jim did not write in his note book after the fact! he did not write it at a later time! he made his notes on site, whilst standing next to the craft from who knows ! How do i know this ? i knew someone that was of a similar rank to jim, he knew jim and knew he kept hold of the note book, further afosi was on a mad hunt in one of our sister dormes looking for stuff they thought was being kept safe by an uninvolved but Friendly party, that includes photographs! and
that does not have to be from the 1st night by the way, but the BOOK! was another item osi were trackin down, i beleive this was jims note book! that was on mid day sunday or monday, i know that JB and Jim lived off base, but enough of this nonsence, Streight shootin SPs were John n Jim no nonsence, ande some resented them because they where By The BOOK !
Further i know that some people that are VERY familer with what im saying view this site, i ask that you come forward please !
All thats really going on is the FxxKin Light House ! It wasent ! get past it ! or find another hobbie as its not nor hasent ever been worthy of discussion !The more that is talked about the more pleasure you give IAN, and in my book hes had enough attention ! that goes for any other debunkers slanderous thoughts ! treat it as the joke its been since its invention in 1983!
I hope John and jims return is a pleasent experiance for them both, yea, i hope they get some clousure, have some laughs, see how our base has changed over the years! and rember some of the good times whilst on it , i know all that visit with them while they re live this most personel of experiances will be respectfull ann supportive ! Ian you devil, get your ass out there too , cause you OWE it to all of us ! ( and bring your pals too !) John Lennon once said, YOU SHOULDA BEEN THERE !
ya really should have. Cheers

[ncf1]

this is the kind of thing that is really important in my opinion. It just adds more to the putting of the jigsaw puzzle together and is precisely what is required.

[Ignis Fatuus]

Larry
In your book you said that on the morning after, whilst in the Mess Hall, you asked Sgt Penniston about the UFO and he replied 'Hey Warren, shut the f@#k up!'. Do you think with hindsight...that you should have followed that order?

Geez Larry where's that Warren sense of humour? You do some of the best online Melt-Downs ever...don't ever let anybody change that. Look at it this way, you got yourself in the footnotes of history...the passage of time will show that Larry Warren was here...Larry Warren existed. But is it the way you would want your descendants to remember you by? It's never too late to set the record straight...ha ha..do you believe in redemption Larry?

[larry warren]

Well, jims comment wasent an order, just a request, as for the online melt downs, you got me!
as for setting the record streight and redeeming myself for my bloodline in the future? im confused, perhapes you can be moor clear in what you imply ! let me guess, i made it all up and got other people to go along for 30 years because of the Warren sence of humor !?????????????? damn you got me ! your funny too ! cheers

[Ignis Fatuus]

Larry, somebody will tell the real story sooner or later...why couldn't it be you? You could be the Alpha and Omega of the RFI. The public loves warts and all tales. Young men do what young men do. At least set the story straight as it pertains to you. It would be your finest hour.

When I said that you don't even know that you don't even know...that was in reference to your comment that you survived something I could never understand.

[larry warren]

Fair enough ! and if you read the book, we really did cover all the bases ! alot of firsts that are now presented as NEW information, ie; the involvement of NSA for example.
let me ask you what you think it was all about, the events i mean. what do you think my motivation was to out the thing?
please by pass ,money, fame, and good will from my fellow man, as it never happened ! Really, perhaps its time for all the players in this forum to lay out what they think it was!
my motive was that it had to go public for all that have seen THEM and gotton sand bagged ! and for the people on base that got messed with after the fact.
Revenge , if you will ! and ive no love lost for any of our command structure on Bentwaters that LET certain things go on, after the fact! and my NZ friend, you and others will continue to beleive what you will!
one other thing , my proudest moment was the day my son was born !
as for giving birth to rendlesham, time will tell ? cheers

[Ignis Fatuus]

At the risk of this turning into a love-in, I want you to know that regardless of what I think may or may not have happened....I respect your courage to Man-up and debate the issue with the public.

[jpenniston]

That is a good idea about analysis of the notebook. We have two independent examinations being done at the moment. And not just on date and time, It will be interesting if It shows radiation too. I wish I could share all the earth shattering info in that notebook. But that will be for another place and time....... I see most of you, are not in the ball park, at all, with much, you have posted.

[ncf1]

I'd like to know Jim, was it the sense of time distortion that perhaps contributed to the difficulty in writing or purely the realisation that this craft was just something else. Of course I realise if I was confronted with what you described i'm not sure I'd be in any state of control but I really find the time thing very curious, it's an attribute mentioned in other ufo cases as well.

And another thing was, in Sky Crash, how did you sense that if there was anything in there that the beings could be robots - was that a visual or perhaps mental perception?

cheers mate, actually i think i'll put these questions up top.

[Admin]

That is a good idea about analysis of the notebook. We have two independent examinations being done at the moment. And not just on date and time, It will be interesting if It shows radiation too. I wish I could share all the earth shattering info in that notebook. But that will be for another place and time....... I see most of you, are not in the ball park, at all, with much, you have posted.

That's good to hear, Jim. I hope the results can be shared with all.

[larry warren]

Ignis, i have to say i pissed myself with the chopper vid ! Nice one ! a sense of humor is whats missing from this stuff and
as chopper Reed would say, Lifes too Fxxking short Mate !

[Ignis Fatuus]

No worries
Thought you'd get a giggle from it.