General Williams Statement

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General Williams Statement

Postby John Burroughs » Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:01 pm

General Williams in the second out of the Blue made a statement that he would have never let Halts memo be allowed to leave the Base if he would have seen the Memo. He stated there were things in the memo we could not defend and of cource Fox who was doing the interview didnot follow up with what things. What is in the memo that could not be defened?
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Re: General Williams Statement

Postby Observer » Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:13 pm

John

Thanks for high lighting that, it is interesting because the Halt memo that we have all read is just a simple, 'lights seen' and gives nothing away. I wonder if this was an amended memo where certain things were removed before it was sent to the MoD.

That word defend is loaded, and it could mean several things such as, we could not defend against some thing, or we could not defend our actions to the British Government, or we could not defend some cock up that happened. The list is quite long. Its defining what he meant by defend. If we can do that we have cracked it.

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Re: General Williams Statement

Postby Observer » Thu Nov 06, 2008 9:31 am

Thanks St

I will read it when i have some time.

John

"There are things in that statement we cannot defend" That says to me that the USAF had done something that was pretty bad, it was possibly unforgivable thus could not be defended if they were ever questioned about it. Defend against who? The British or American authorities or both, or even the media.

On a less serious theory, if there were pranks going on off base on British sovereign territory, could that be some thing they couldn't defend? Or on a more serious note did some sort of crime take place that would be defenceless. Or was there some sort of experiment carried out that had such effect on people that it would be defenceless. There is a big list here of things that could not be defended.
The famous Halt memo that we have all read does not give any thing away, so this must have been another memo.
I think Williams was very worried that what happened had serious consequences for them and the USAF if it got out. Remember Halt's remark that he, and the air force would never be the same if it got out.

That does smell of a very large misdemeneor.

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Re: General Williams Statement

Postby John Burroughs » Thu Nov 06, 2008 5:00 pm

I just read Hastings article has anyone else taken the time yet. I would like to hear what people think to include any questions...
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Re: General Williams Statement

Postby Observer » Thu Nov 06, 2008 6:43 pm

John

Thats one hell of a lot to take in.

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Re: General Williams Statement

Postby AdrianF » Thu Nov 06, 2008 9:35 pm

I read through this speedily, would like to take a bit more in later.
First impressions are, that by focusing on one particular area of the case Robert Hastings has bought some new witnesses/info to the table. Rick Bobo's testimony though not new, is a great one to focus on, as it gives a different perspective to what what happening inside the forest. The statements from the Control Tower are interesting to say the least.

Thanks ST for posting this.

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Re: General Williams Statement

Postby Observer » Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:46 pm

Robert Hastings certainly has given us a lot more testimony to this intriguing mystery. Most if you notice are to do with the lights and light beams with lots of mention about the WSA. Many more witnesses are now saying they saw them. There is a little contradiction here and there but generally it has added weight to the original statements by Halt and the others.

There are a couple of things that have been niggling away at me since i first read all the original statements by Halt, Penniston and the others.

If as it has been 'suggested', the light beams coming down from the sky were 'possibly' being used to disable nuclear weapons in the WSA, then why was it so selective in just the Bentwaters WSA? There were 2 RAF bases in East Anglia, 3 in Lincolnshire and a Polaris base in Scotland that also stockpiled nuclear weapons yet none have ever reported any weird lights or light beams over their bases.

Secondly, why is it that all these weird happenings are only seen at night.
Why were these very bright lights that Halt and co reported not seen during the day. I have fired flares in day light and they are still very visible even from a distance.
Everything is at night with the RFI which makes you wonder just what was going on?

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Re: General Williams Statement

Postby John Burroughs » Fri Nov 07, 2008 7:02 pm

After rereading Hastings report I found somthing very interesting. BoBo stated he was up there on there first Mid night shift. My first day of break which would have been Friday night. That was the night the LT went out there and was releived of duty. He stated a Col was out there could Halt have been called out there or maybe even Williams or Conrad. If you read what he says he says our night he was on 24hr break and his first night back was when he was in the tower and the only night he was in the tower which was not the night Halt stated the lights went into the WSA. It sounds like Thompson was in the tower and his CO-worker on the night of the 25th-26th and the 27th-28th.
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Re: General Williams Statement

Postby John Burroughs » Fri Nov 07, 2008 7:52 pm

Our night the first night 25th-26th Thur-Fri 2nd night 26th -27th Friday-Sat 3rd night 27th-28th Satnight to Sun AM It was Balls shift commander I beleive D Flight Female LT Tamplin.
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Re: General Williams Statement

Postby Observer » Fri Nov 07, 2008 8:13 pm

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More to the point why was the Lieutenant relieved of his duties? Word must have got round.

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Re: General Williams Statement

Postby AdrianF » Fri Nov 07, 2008 10:20 pm

John

Would it have been unusual for Lt Tamplin to have been carrying a camera?

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Re: General Williams Statement

Postby AdrianF » Fri Nov 07, 2008 11:44 pm

I've just looked over the shifts that Georgina Bruni worked out with Edward Drury. I presume these are reasonably accurate. If I read it right then it does look as though Rick Bobo would have been on the 26/27 shift on his first night back, though it also reads that D flight also worked the midnight shifts 27/28 28/29, which means he could potentially have done one of these, first night back would be 26/27 though.

I have to be honest, I considered the activities of the second night to probably be down to confusion over dates, but looking at this does make me think it more likely that night no.2 was equally active.

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Re: General Williams Statement

Postby pupil88 » Tue Nov 11, 2008 2:23 am

Silvertop,

Great find!

I found the source of Hastings' contacts.

http://81sps.homestead.com/main.html

Check roster- Names and e-mail addresses of former airmen stationed at the two bases over the years.

Check message board - click on main forum - click on topic - UFO researcher Robert Hastings

shows a list of names he contacted.
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Re: General Williams Statement

Postby pupil88 » Mon Nov 17, 2008 12:32 am

Hi ST,

Who was Bonnie Tamplin?

JB wrote: on Dec26/27 " shift commander relieved of duty was freaked out by the beams of light that lit up her

vehicle and the blue lights that and I quote the report, that passed through her vehicle and caused her vehicle

to shut down. They also lost contact with her for 10 min."
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Re: General Williams Statement

Postby pupil88 » Mon Nov 17, 2008 12:43 am

Read Hastings UFOs and Nukes

Bracketing the THREE

S/Sgt Burris on his UFO sightings:

" We saw (three) sets of what appeared to be ball park lights, hanging over Rendlesham Forest. The (three) groups

were in a straight line, all at the same altitude, just above the trees...We ...could see each group of lights

appear to curve around the middle of what seemed like a ,uh, football-shaped object- not laying on its side, but

set on-end. There were (three) of these side by side.

In Alternate Theories (Mildenhall/RFI Connection) I wrote:

I witnessed an elliptically shapped craft, like an American football with rounded cones.

On a white carpet platform,there were (three) rows of (three) bar-like containers.

The white platform mixed and merged with a black rectangle and underwent (three) transformations
revealing (three) rectangles laying on top of one another,and eight or (three x three) cylindrically shapped
objects.
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