Solving the Rendlesham incident? Clues from anonymous

[Pluton]

Sounds like the idea is to suggest it was the recovery of a space probe/satellite or similar. I think it was called Project Moon Dust (or something like that).

Been suggested before. I'm not impressed so I'll pass that one by.

[Andy]

Jolly Green giant helicopter and triangular marks? A military flashlight with a red lense found in the woods? Helicopter crashed? But then surely, it's fuel would have been spilled and set light to the forest. Were the triangular marks the base of a helicopter? Therefore it landed upright, even if it did crash (and didn't spill any fuel which would probably ignite)?
Any plane or helicopter crash usually gets into the news. Why not this one? A red flash light in the woods? Leftover from Hallowe'en? I have various ex military friends, but i know for sure they wouldn't have risked their livelihoods running around a forest with a red lensed torch playing pranks when a Colonel was in the vicinity.

[Andy]

What is this? 'The Krypton factor? If you know what happened, just say. If not, don't muddy the waters any further. Guessing games are for kids parties. I'm 41 years old, for God's sake.

[Observer]

Hi And

I aggree, with what you say, Sadly the waters are already pretty murky on the this fascinating incident.

I have noticed over the time i have been a member of this forum that there are a few people who only want to believe it to be a UFO or even an alien visitation and have closed minds to anything else. There are also a few, me included that have a more open approach and we are willing to listen to all sides of the argument especially when there is some good evidence/theories put forward for other scenarios.

Even though deep down i would love this incident to have been an alien craft, no body yet has convinced me it was. On the other hand there seems to be more 'convincing' evidence that it was a prank!

Many lines of enquiry that i and others have undertaken seem to be non runners or have yielded little substancial evidence.

As one friend said to me who was in the ARRS stationed at Woodbridge, if the truth was put before you in huge black and white letters, you woudn't believe it any way. Now this in its self is a clue as a few other of my USAF and British friends have said the same thing. I just wonder that we are not widening our scope enough to take in more scenarios that have yet to be considered?

Observer

[Andy]

Good to hear from you again Observer. Sorry i haven't been on here for a while, but haven't been well. I agree with you entirely. Let's keep an open scope. However, cryptic messages from people who wish to remain anonymous are no good to us. Remain anonymous by all means, yes, but give us the facts.... if you really have them?....but let's not get into the pathetic realms of 'guessing games.' and as i said 'Muddying the waters further.' That serves no purpose, whatsoever. Interesting what you said though, because Brenda Butler quoted to me Colonel Halt some years after the incident 'If i now gave you the truth....would you ever believe me?'

[Observer]

Hi Andy

Sorry to hear you have been unwell, hope you are OK now.
I've just returned from a 2 week holiday hence this late reply.

My article "Rendlesham forest incident explained" was compiled from many cryptic clues and remarks. [Read my other post which was a reply to admins post concerning the article].

I think there is some interesting mileage and new lines of enquiry if you stop to think about the remarks made a by a few people. "If we told you the truth, you wouldn't believe it any way".

Does this imply that it was so incredulas that we would not believe it or does it mean it was so simple and obvious we still wouldn't believe it?

I think we need to look at this and perhaps use some lateral thinking.

I have felt from the onset of this forum that some people have possibly read more into some evidence than the evidence deserves. In other words, adding 2 and 2 together and making 5.

On the other side of the coin, i feel that some remarks and evidence could be just the tip of the iceberg.

Regards

Observer

[Andy]

Hi Observer, good to hear from you. Hope you had a good holiday? I totally agree on keeping an open mind. Whatever it was that happened, even if it was something quite simple, i would still like to know. But why the big cover up, if it was something simple? I have various accounts from credible colleagues who i have no reason to disbelieve, because i know them to be very honest people, with nothing to gain from fabricating stories other than making themselves look stupid, which i don't believe is the case. What i would like answers to is 1. What were the five bright orange balls of light that hovered over the forest for sometime giving off smaller colored lights, mainly red and blue? and observed by various colleagues from an upstairs window of a local hospital not far from the forest? Helicopters? Maybe, i don't know, but perhaps someone can give me evidence to support this? 2. Another colleague dating a farm worker who 'saw a craft with three entities' and later forced to sign an official secrets act. The incident caused him to have a breakdown. His sister i trained with, and his partner at the time (my other colleague) are psychiatric nurses who i'm sure would be well aware if any sort of psychosis was involved? Which apparently would not seem to be the case. It was a reactive depression, not a psychotic depression. 3. A friend of another colleague seeing a craft hovering over Orfordness on a pillar of water and appearing to morph? I can't quantify this one, but my colleague is again trained in psychiatry and would know if his informant was suffering some sort of psychosis, and if making something up like that, why open themselves up to ridicule? 4. A patient granted, gave me this information, but he is a very intelligent man and even when well he maintains what he has witnessed. Yellow lights moving underwater in Orfordness. Someone suggested lights to do with sewage removal or similar? Maybe, but again. Give me the evidence for this.
Regards, Andy

[Andy]

The damage to the approach lights always interest me. Apparently Halt said the craft came from 'the coast'. Is this not in the direction of the lighthouse, much further into the forest? Nowhere near the said lights. However, did it come from the coast, over the forest, crash through the lights, then land beside the base flightline on what is now route 4? This might tie in with the Halt tape 'we are at East gate.'? Just a thought.