In The Name of National Security

[pupil88]

Halt:” I wish I hadn’t gotton involved in this. Nobody’s going to believe me.”

Halt on Burroughs and Penniston:” They were quite concerned...I think they were quite worried. I know they were concerned about losing their security clearance or their jobs.”

Rayl:” Now, why would they be worried about that?”

Halt: “ Because they weren’t sure anyone anybody would believe them

Rayl: :So, UFOs are not exactly a subject for open conversation?”

Halt: “No....”

Reporting a UFO incident could result in losing your job and ending your career.You’d be harrased until you changed your story. You’d be awaken at 3 AM for interrogation. You’d be branded a liar and never have a career.

Your options: If you see something “unworldly” you never speak of it...never go on record...never open your mouth. If your forced to speak, fudge it...filter it...make it sound vague...just say you saw lights, no more.

It’s probable that beams of light landed in the WSA and some guards did not report it. Those that did were later debriefed and forced to recant their stories. It was the night after that the SP log, plans and Blotter went missing. There were too many names and so little space. NSA agents debriefed and put a lock on the situation by threatening, intimidating and in some cases,drugging the cooperative and the uncooperative and transferred many of those involved back to the States within weeks of the UFO landing.

Now a quiz to measure how much you have learned.
Q: What happens when a UFO lands at your doorsteps?
A: You ignore it and deny that it happened.

Q: What would you tell your six year old, who came into your bedroom and said that aliens landed in your front yard?
A: Santa is busy this Christmas and sent his elves.

Those having a close encounter with a UFOs have their security rating upgraded. Once upgraded, it’s a courtmarshall offense to discuss them. If a UFO is encountered, no base alert is sounded. There is a silent and selective distribution of resources to address it. No weapons allowed. It’s almost like there is an unwritten protocol that must be adhered to.

[pupil88]

If you knew that UFOs are a taboo subject, why would you risk your job and career by reporting that you see a “huge craft” over Rendlesham Forest..That’s what R. Bobo did. He said he was instructed to watch it, which he did for five hours while it was in a ‘stationary’ position near Woodbridge. Someone he didn’t identify, went up the 50 foot tower with a scope, to focus on it. R. Bobo said he was never debriefed or questioned about the UFO. What he said later, confirmed Lt. Col. Halt’s sighting of five objects emerging from an explosion.
http://www.ufodigest.com/news/1008/bentwaters.html

[Beentheredonethat]

MERRY, SORRY, HAPPY CHRISTMAS! RFI= Rendlesham Forrest Incident
National Security,YOU SAY, Let's look at how the RFI was managed compared to a REGULATION from MAJIC-12!
Lets look at the Reference Manual, or the Technical Order if you will,T.O.12D1-3-11-1, this regulation on how to control, contain, and recover Extraterrestrial Entities and Technology, Recovery and Disposal, Special Operations Manual No1-01, SOM1-01, MAJESTIC-12 GROUP. You know Majestic-12 the super secret tapped by the US Gov, as the Experts in UFO Operations. The MAJESTIC TWELVE reported directly to the U.S. President. They had their own level of security.
EVALUATE HOW OUR RFI RESPONDERS DID USING THIS SPEC OP MANUAL AS A CHECK LIST !
Did they follow the guidance as listed in the MAJESTIC-12's Manual on how to manage a UFO Recovery operation?
This manual is dated April 1954, is HIGHLY CLASSIFIED, is available from, The Freedom of Information Act, allows reprint of this very informative TOP SECRET GOV OFFICIAL MANUAL. It has, most likely, been updated and modified but may stand as the foundation for all operational instructional documentation due to the input of select expert knowledge.
To access this Manual for free please follow this instruction. Yahoo search, type in this title; Best UFO Resources and Info, or select this Site now. http://www.hyper.net/ufo-old.html This should bring you to; Best UFO RESOURCES, then scroll down to para 11 (MAJESTIC-12 DOCS pgs 48-59, Select MAJESTIC-12 DOCS, specifically, SOM1-01 Exterrestrial Entities and Technology, Recovery and Disposal, APR 1954. Sects 1 & 2 Please read both and evaluate how the RFI Leadership did. It's Interesting reading to say the least. Believable, yeah It's OFFICIAL MAJIC-12 EYES ONLY! There are a number of interesting volumes of CLASSIFIED manuals and documents that are intreresting reading. It's documentation that is too good to be believable for some! Happy Reading by the ol fireside.
MERRY CHRISTMAS to all and to all a good night !
HAPPY NEW YEAR!!
BTDT

[time4truth]

sorry havnt read ALL info yet BUT.. could the TWIN USAF Bases hav been used like Area 51 !! Alien and US\ ALIEN craft using Suffolk Air Bases... Maybe for longer back than we realise ?? How many years hav US military been "involved" with using and backengineering Alien craft? 1947 Roswell or even earlier???

[time4truth]

"Secret" "name of national security" "taboo subject" even "bullets are cheap" THREATS.. HOW ARE WE EVER GOING TO FIND THE TRUTH..???
Worldwide Disclosure Conferences?

[Deep Purple]

The overiding problem with believing a huge global UFO conspriracy is hard fact.
If the US had alien technology why did it spend Billions of $ developing the F22 Raptor , just coming into service now. The same goes for the Russians & Chinese--- if they knew they would be there.
I dont say we have never been visited by ALien craft, but if we had thier technology we would have used it and not spent so much money developing other products.
If we have crashed Alien technology it may be like giving Leanardo De Vinci a digital watch--- he could see what it did but have no idea how it worked.
UFO's are also fantastic cover for black projects, and the Rendlesham Incident was probably a stage managed incident to cover the F117a Stealth fighter. Read Skunk Works by Leo Rich , who was head of the Skunk Works at the time

[time4truth]

so you dont believe info about Dulce Bace and all its different underground levels and aliens working there? and aliens at Area 51?

[puddlepirate]

I totally agree with ST and DP on this. Whatever happened at Rendlesham in Dec 81 was real - but had a much more mundane explanation than alien craft and visitors from other planets. Leonardo was no mug but like Dp said, give him a digital watch and he would have been stumped. He would undoubtedly have toyed with it, analysed it and discovered that it needed the battery to make it work. He would probably have cut open the battery to see what was inside. He would have known the printed circuit contained components of importance but he simply would not have had the equipment to go further. The materials used to make the watch and the technology required to manufacture the watch from those materials would be unknown to him. He would be stuck with a puzzle he could not solve. One might argue that was is strange is the sudden and very rapid increase in the development and use of technology - in little more than 200 years we went from not much at all to communication satellites in space. Wooden ships were around for a couple of thousand years without any great developments, weaponry remained fairly rudimentary for ages, then all of a sudden - wallop. Steel hulled ships, rifled barrels, aircraft, radio, missiles, computers, electricity, motor cars...in very short time indeed we were up and running.

In 1981 the F117a was alien technology as far as those not involved were concerned but it was man-made technologly, developed here on Earth and anything that might have led to its existence becoming public knowledge would have to have been contained immediately and by whatever means necessary.

I've no idea what happens at Area 51 - and as a UK citizen it's not my business to know. It is not a question of belief or disbelief, it's simply a matter of need to know.

[time4truth]

I understand ST, DP, & PP i guess i read too much on internet- "cant believe ALL you read eh?"
Just wish we had a snippet of truth now and again...xx

[Deep Purple]

Time4Truth, sometimes you have to look at what actually happens or what people actually do, rather than what they say. That said it is possible that Alien craft have visited us with in the last 50 yrs, we dont know everything. Also remember people make money out of UFOs----much in the same way Lawyers make money out of Crooks.
The real problem is the security services can use / will use UFOs to cover black projects so you have to question a lot about what has been said and by whom. For example Col Halt may know exactly what happened at Rendlesham but he could be part of the security service cover up, but equally he might not know and be fed disinformation. The whole Halt Tape and Memo could be planted info by the security services--- they are good you know.
Interestingly Apollo Astronauts Edgar Mitchell beleives in UFOs and says its a conspiracy, but is this just another level of disinformation? Other Apollo Astronauts have seen UFos including Neil Armstrong.
If Aliens are visiting us and it may be possible, we have not mastered their technology I think that you can be sure of. We could have crashed Alien craft at Area 51-- but it would probably take years to work out how they fly--- think of the problems we have in trying to get Nuclear Fusion to work. Keep thinking , Keep Digging

[pupil88]

Deep Purple
The overriding problem with believing a huge global UFO conspiracy is hard fact
.If your asking whether the UFO sightings are global in scope...Yes.
In Europe, China, Australia, Russia, US and Canada and Mexico...Yes.

If the US had alien technology why did it spend Billions ...
Do you actually think that the military/industrial complex is a non/profit organization?

the Rendlesham Incident was probably a stage managed incident to cover the F117a Stealth fighter.
You mean everyone who participated were acting out a part? Without rehearsals? Are you suggesting that Warren is one of the world's greatest actors? And Halt, a brilliant liar?

Silvertop
I highly doubt any advanced space fairing race would leave bits and pieces of its crafts littering the ground in New Mexico.
Well, how about a mediocre, down in the dump, race.

I believe many of the UFO cases from the 40s right up until the break-up of the USSR were counter-intelligence operations. I like to bet those are the cases in the still unpublished classified sections of the Project Bluebook files.
I suggest you google Project Bluebook, Wikipedia. You need some updating on History.Afterwards, check these out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaJcvCTd ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxUZz3un ... re=related
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNGG4s6m ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2KMqOB8 ... re=related

to attribute the unexplained to aliens is a cultural phenomena of our time. Why does it have to be aliens? More likely beyond human comprehension.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkiX4rOxsRs

Puddle Pirate
Whatever happened at Rendlesham in Dec 81 was real - but had a much more mundane explanation than alien craft and visitors from other planets.
You submitted over a dozen catastrophic scenerios and not one had any basis in fact.

I've no idea what happens at Area 51
Let me help you...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HexrE0eV ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZE5YP5Eh-C0
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[puddlepirate]

Oh dear. Someone doth protest too much......

[Deep Purple]

"The overriding problem with believing a huge global UFO conspiracy is hard fact
.If your asking whether the UFO sightings are global in scope...Yes.
In Europe, China, Australia, Russia, US and Canada and Mexico...Yes."

So are ghost/ fairy stories--- do you believe in these?

"If the US had alien technology why did it spend Billions ...
Do you actually think that the military/industrial complex is a non/profit organization?"

Money talks, they wouldnt have spent so many billions $ on the Raptor if they had super secret UFO technology waiting in the wings-- they would have upgraded the Tomcat and Eagle

"the Rendlesham Incident was probably a stage managed incident to cover the F117a Stealth fighter.
You mean everyone who participated were acting out a part? Without rehearsals? Are you suggesting that Warren is one of the world's greatest actors? And Halt, a brilliant liar?"
Ever watched real crime programmes? The guilty can lie and act as well as Marlo Brando. No I cant prove Warren and Halt are lying but can you prove they are telling the truth as well
Before we go ALIEN we need to exclude involvemnent with a black project on all Nato and Russian sides

[Deep Purple]

Edgar Mitchell is also a firm beleiver in UFOs, also Neil Armsrong saw ufo at a distance on the way to the moon.
These were Nasa's best and thay say there is sometihng out there

[pupil88]

NASA Alien Anomalies Caught on Film-
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread448814/pg1

[pupil88]

they wouldn’t have spent so many billions $ on the Raptor if they had super secret UFO technology waiting in the wings

http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/morphingmetals.html

Excerpt-
Amazing advances are being made in the development of new metal alloys. These alloys have remarkable characteristics, in that they will change shape upon the application of an electric current or magnetic field. They change shape, or ‘morph’ as the researchers prefer to say, rapidly and with some considerable force. They are termed ‘compact hybrid actuators’, a mouthful of engineering jargon, so we would prefer to call them ‘living metals’. Why? Because these alloys incorporate advanced nano-technology that is designed to enable them to mimic living systems in their versatility and dynamism. The list of potential applications seems endless, and the U.S. military is funding a variety of related research programs exploring the full range of options. Self-healing wings that flex and react like living organisms, versatile bombers that double as agile jet fighters, and swarms of tiny unmanned aircraft are just a few of the science-fiction-like possibilities that these next-generation technologies could make feasible in the decades ahead.

Ever watched real crime programmes:

As humanity's Grand Inquisitor, you may have to actually read Left At East Gate and Sky Crash. You'd have to interrogate 'Steve Roberts' a psuedonym, for he was the one, at the beginning, who leaked parts of the details of the RFI and said that it was real and not a hoax. Pay close attention to Warren's movement prior to and after the encounter in the forest. Halt's movements have been discussed on the board. The evidence is there.You may have to tell the court of inquisition about your numerous catastrophic scenarios that unfortunately have no recorded movements in Rendlesham Forest except in your mind. Assuming its a democratic process your following, stack the jury with the like minded and you’ll have an excellent chance of proving your points.

[Deep Purple]

I think the very fact that they are trying to get metals to morph ( if this is want they are doing and not somebodys wish list) is proof that they dont have working alien technology. If they had a working saucer--- they would use it. Aviation products , like the F22 Raptor take many years to develop and the airframe would be intended to have a long service life at least 25 - 30 yrs. Products like the B52 are still flying in Combat from the 60s. The F15 first flew in the mid 70s and is only just retiring. They are probably trying to think of what to develop beyond the F22 at present. Also if Alien technology was acquired at say , Roswell, why make the F117a, the B2 & B1 bombers at a cost of Billions of Dollars.
We do not see any huge leap in Russian or Chinese technolgy either to suggest ALien technology. At what does EU do --- it builds Eurofighter----- a very conventional aircraft.

As this is not a litigation matter , it seems strange that you attempt to frame it in such terms.
I would start from the point that everything you reads in books, much like the newspapers may not be true. The Halt Tape, statements, witness accounts could be an elborate fabrication of disinformation to keep people away from the real truth.