UFO crashes?

[Observer]

Hi all

If another civilisation from another galaxy had the technology to visit earth, their technology would be so advanced the craft would not crash. I don't buy this crashed space craft senario such as Roswell. I have an open mind to the possibility that we have been visited, but as yet no body has proved it.

Observer

[schooner]

Hi Observer,

Whats your thoughts on the footage from manmade satellites that clearly show cylindrical objects in the earths atmosphere and several clips of lights hovering high in the atmosphere avoiding missiles (at the blink of an eye) apparently launched from earth?

Do you think this evidence has been modified in order to manipulate the public? If so I wonder how hard would it be to trace back to the originator?

Regards

Schooner

[Observer]

Hi Schooner
Long time no hear.

Yes, i have seen some of the documentories where these objects and lights were seen by astronauts. Its hard to come to any conclusion. Some scientists gave reasonable explanations as to what they were, from space debris to ice particles. To me the most intriguing ones are the 'discs' that were observed from space.

I'm very sceptical when people say there is some sort of star wars going on between us and alien visitors. May be there is more than one alien civilisation floating out there and it is they who are having a football match in space to see who lands on the White house lawn first. I'm being a bit sarcastic as no body yet has proved any thing.

Observer

[unMutual]

Hi all

If another civilisation from another galaxy had the technology to visit earth, their technology would be so advanced the craft would not crash. I don't buy this crashed space craft senario such as Roswell. I have an open mind to the possibility that we have been visited, but as yet no body has proved it.

Observer

I agree with Observer that a UFO 'would not crash'. In my opinion, seeing the words 'UFO' and 'crash' in the same sentence usually indicates that the rest of the story can be safely ignored. The Roswell incident was an attempt to use a bogus UFO story to cover a secret high-altitude balloon device that came down during a storm. The cover story spun out of control when people demanded more information about this event which never actually happened.

I believe a similar situation happened with the 'Kecksburg UFO Incident' of December 9, 1965. This was a Soviet Venera 4 atmospheric probe that re-entered the atmosphere and did crash. However, it was identified. The government agencies who were responsible for hauling it away did not use a UFO as a cover story. They did not have to because average citizens did this for them.

I also cringe when I read of a UFO 'getting lost' or 'confused' which, to me, also seems unlikely.

I believe that an advanced civilization is some how able to manipulate time-space to cross dimensions. The device resembling the classic UFO may also be a physical manifestation for human benefit. Humans are more likely to interact with something that appears as 'nuts & bolts' than with something that exists but cannot be seen. Humans tend more toward 'seeing is believing' because they are dealing with four dimensions. But, more often than not, what we are 'seeing' are the side-effects of the phenomenon - like residual radiation, burn marks, indentations, traumatized witnesses, dead animals, sudden change in temperature, paranoia, electrified atmosphere, etc.

Solving the mystery of the Rendlesham incident will require us to accept the probability that the phenomenon is beyond current human comprehension. As far as crashes, ball lighting, light houses, and space debris, these explanations would be welcome on the Roswell forums.

[Observer]

The civilian population of most developed countries are the best 'unpaid' diversion any government could wish for. They did a better job than the CIA could over Roswell and i'm sure they are still doing it for other UFO mysteries. Perhaps the Rendlesham forest incident falls into this catogory.
Having said this, i have always felt that RFI is a much simpler incident than we give it credit for and it is human nature to put the most sci fi explanation to these events.
I have an open mind to being visited and for a civilisation from another galaxy who could be a million years ahead of us, it would be no more difficult for them than you taking a vacation to the sea side.
Trouble is, there is no evidence so far that they have visited excepting your theory of manifestation for our benefit.
Obs

[Deep Purple]

But Aliens are subject to " Sods" law, which is universal--- hence the crashes

[Observer]

Actually its 'Jedi' law.
Come on guys where is this going? Although i do like the banter
Obs

[AdrianF]

Taking the family to the seaside can sometimes be a pretty major undertaking. I have an open mind to believe it can be done without any stress, but I have yet to see proof

Adrian

[Wolf]

Remember the Force is like duct tape. It has a light side and a dark side and it holds the universe together....

Wolf

[IanR]

Over a decade ago, Curtis Peebles posted this insightful report on aircraft accident sites and their relevance to supposed UFO crashes. It makes numerous points worth considering:
http://n6rpf.com-us.net/peebles1.html

Ian

[Observer]

Ian
Thank you for posting this very interesting article. Peebles has carried out some very good detective work with a different slant to most investigations. The bottom line to his investigations re crash sites must throw up implications and alternative possibilities to Roswell and indeed Rendlesham.
My personal view is that there is not the sightest bit of evidence that there was a plane crash in the forest but this is not to say that part of an aircraft or weapon dropped in those woods at low speed.
Obs

[puddlepirate]

Hi Ian

Many thanks for posting the link to a very interesting document. It defines what is missing - or perhaps more accurately, what has not been found yet - regarding the RFI. Given that it has to be assumed that 70 - 80 USAF personnel had better things to do than wander around Rendlesham forest in the middle of the night, then they had to be looking for something and for that number of people to be looking for something suggests that whatever it was, was either small or in pieces. Therefore, there should still be some tiny fragments of whatever it was still embedded in the forest floor somewhere. If the precise location of the real landing site could be determined then a search with a metal detector might prove useful....

[Observer]

Hi all
I heard from an obscure source that the 70/80 men [this figure seems to have grown over time as all stories do] were not looking for bits of hardware but people/bodies!
Obs