30th Anniversary Conference discussion/Binary Code [merged]

[Ignis Fatuus]

At the risk of giving the fellas ideas...it wouldn't surprise me if Jim claims it's a reply to the The Arecibo Message
http://www.physics.utah.edu/~cassiday/p1080/lec06.html
An ET call back with a tachyonic anti-telephone perhaps.
If it was me, I would have come up with some new JimSymbols (triangles and circles etc).

[Frank]

The only binary code that would make sense is if it was sent as a visual. Maybe we'll have to wait for part 2 or the remaining pages in the notebook to be made available.

At the risk of giving the fellas ideas...it wouldn't surprise me if Jim claims it's a reply to the The Arecibo Message
http://www.physics.utah.edu/~cassiday/p1080/lec06.html

Yes, if the message looked like the Arecibo Message in any way I would be impressed.

- In the Arecibo Message the total number of bits in the message is a product of two prime numbers, these two numbers give the length and width of the binary picture encoded by the bits. This is a pretty universal way to convey a picture and to say that we are an intelligent species. No ASCII or English involved here in any way.

- Conveying an English message in a roundabout way by mapping each character to a number using a human-invented 20th century ASCII table does not seem to make any sense in human-ET contact (no matter where the ET's come from) - even if you use binary form to represent these numbers.

Both have the cool appearance of 0's and 1's but the difference is huge..

If it was me, I would have come up with some new JimSymbols (triangles and circles etc).

Yes, he really missed an opportunity here ..
(I wondered if the number '81' was somehow related to the 81st Security Police .. to give them ever-lasting Fame and Glory .. )

But he still has some time left for the remaining 7-9 pages ...

[Frank]

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In my previous posts, only the capitals and numbers were shown. All other characters were replaced by ‘=’ for improved readability.

For people who want to see all printable characters in the message, not just capitals and numbers, I’ve included the full decoding to printable ASCII characters below.
Non-printable ASCII characters like ESC and DEL (including SPACE and TAB) have been replaced by a ‘~’.
The standard ASCII table was used (characters 1..128), all characters with code > 128 have also been replaced by a ‘~’. (In 8-bit ASCII, codes >128 can be used to encode foreign letters, mathematical symbols etc. but these ‘ASCII extensions’ are proprietary and not really part of the standard ASCII definition).

Encoding the whole 916 bit message for 8 bits ASCII, reading left to right:

EXPLORATIONOGHUMANITY6l~~~~~~~~~~~~~~q~~~~~~~~~~zr~INUOUSQ~~~~~S~U~T~PQ~~R~""CFN~~*$!~~~$~~~""~~~*$~*~~*~~~lU~$$Td~$
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~l~~~~~~S#~~C#S3$~~3~3~#c~t4~~D~~~~~~~~~(&~~""~~~,~~+~~~D~~~URTHCOODINATECONTINUOTUQS~~~~HH~~~H
~aA1=I~Q%=9=~!U5~9%Qd~~g~&~~~F~&~F~fI~&f&f&F~*~i~~~%9U=UMFORPLANETARYADVAH~~~~:~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~!~T~~~Q~~~
*~~bz~~~Jzrz:B~j~rJ~~~f~~L~~L~~M~~L~~~L~L~L~~U~~~~~Jr~z~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~9~~2uUIQ!~==~%9~Q~~=9Q%9U=QUENCb~)!""~~~""
U~~~~$~D~~~~t~T~~~~E~f~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~*$~~T~U5~=IA1~9~Q~Ie~~Y~~r$4d~~~~B~zz""Jr~~*~zr~Jr~z~~~~~~PRBEFORE
~~~~~H*~)~~~~~~~)~*~&~~8100520942532N13131269WCONTI)~~~~j2z~~b~r*~~~~~""~~@~Hh~~U%D~4~~D~~~DT4~~D~~T~EU~9~~~~~~~~~~
V~~~~~U~S~~~~~SPS~U~M~6pb``jd`rhdjfd~bfbfbdlr~~~~~~S~S~T~d~%~~~~UD~%~~Ed~~~~~~~~J~~i~~~)~*~~i~~~)~~~~~*r~~AI~~~=I~
~(&~~~~$~~~~~*~~~$~,~6l~~~~~~~~~~~~~8~~~~~~~~]~=9Q$~*~~~~~~J~~)~~~*K((~~)~~!~~UT~~~~~~~S~U~P~~~~S~S~~TT~6*~~~*2z~~

Encoding the whole 916 bit message for 7 bits ASCII, reading left to right:

""V~~b=$A*~)tr=~H*S(~r%(Y~~~~~&~~Td0~M~#)LdN~Lf~~Dd6~Uh4z9(I~rU~U)T2=$P&~)d*Q~R,P(E2~~~DC#~U*I(H!Sit""%~A*~(4z9(I~~)u""U""SH6~~R!~(dzI
E,~~DzI~T$Sidz~~U&P)dJQ26668~L~~)H`9~~FS~I~1~L&3~Hl9+PitrQ~)e*=*S(dzI~L~SHU""~$Y~Q~d~~9~~F~*U~Q~C~ShDJ9~T""PitrQ~N*SjE*E~~l*A$B""QIu~
~X(~~u~~(I~SIt:!*M~SI~""dlllp1~~~S~@r4~~&3~8b3~Lf~~XrW!Sie""$SJTzU&QIu~A~A~~*D~I2A""~H~@r~~~NU*%""!~O~Q~~r~(E!Sie""%~U~U~U~N!XU~I~E#~j$
~0P&~j$~Q~O~~htBU~A~~*EIYYY`b0~~&#~dh2~Lf$qDf1~L&#1e.C~SJDI~~)u*M#~j%~1~N""U~~~e~D+~)~d$~~~*TJDB~~O""~)d~Q~C~SJDJ9*O*~*~~C1*~~~~F~TH
*a~L~TH~""%~N~Qi~*5~N$U~~333AD`0~LF~IPd5~LIc~Lb3~LFcJ]~O~~~~N*SjU~F~TJ~b~~E*~*%J~~V~R~HH42:U)~~~~=~D$SH~""~~O~~~~rU~T*T*9~bT~$~~~O)~
UBA~O)~*DJ=~O#R~Tj~~I*~&ffg~~@`5~~~~!Hj3~~F~~Df1~~G~:~~N*~%~U~U*5~O)~~D~9~T~TK~~~,A$~~~hdu*R*~~4z=~I~~*D*~~N*~)e*=(U(Tr~E(~H$*~~R""
+~~1~R~U~~z9~G$~)T~9~T,MMMN~~~@j2~~&C~Tf2~~&3~Lb2~~*t~=~T$J9*O*Tj~~R(~~~r~(A)~(~""Y~H~""!QIjU$T$~itz~~N~U~T~=~T$SJTzQ*Q)d~~P)~HT2=$E

Encoding the whole 916 bit message for 8 bits ASCII, reading right to left through the 916 bits (who knows ..?):

~J~b~BJ~~a9QUE^UNREN^XTEPNRD^^XBEIUW&,$N~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~*~)$T~~~~8~~~~~~~~~~X~Y8~~X~~~9~f~~~~(+*~./~/)""~$~#~~~
D~~~D~~~F~r~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~LXH~~A5~AM%A~Q9A~~%y1YU^UNRH~~~~~q~232321~32~0~p12~020sf~~ERNPVUB\^N^REPI^FACT
~+~~~~(*~~~EU~yU9I~9yaQ~A9I~yya~~%U\~~~8~~j""~~J~*~r~2~J~b~~~~~~~S~~~T~bdfdfdc~febad~be``d`~~~&~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~W~~~~PU~~~~~*~~r~*r~~~*~r~""~~~~*J~~1a""p%~~E~4~~UD~~d~~~~eUyU9I""~/,.~~~~~~~~~$~~~~~~~~~~~~~~6M~I9AYU~qy9yI~A%y~~~Q
$~&*$$~~6~~~TU~T~$T~~~DU~~$E~~~$T~Urb~D~J~~~~i*~~~~~~)+~~~~~~r~EN^X]S~~~~~~~~I~~~~~~~~~~~~~6l~*~r~~~~~~r~~*~J~2~~~
I^LTHIATl~**~~~~~H~~~~~~~~H~~~~H~*~~~~~~~~Q~~~T~U~~~~RW~~~U~T~$~~~~~~~~#3#3#~~3+~~~~~+~~#~6l~4U$~~eT%~~~~$U~~~d~5~
~~~~~~~~~NTUQW~S~~S~~~~T~~~~~~~~RUU~~~~~(&~()~~""~~(#~~~&+*~~~~I~9yauN6&FfFfF9&fV&~N~&V~~F~l~~h~I~~~~K~~~~H~~+~~(j~
%y1Q!%~Q~~~~~~*~)""~/,*""~~)""//,!""~~~~~~~~PMDPSIPETNPFAI^LVUW~S~~*r~~~~lL~~~~~rL~~L,~~L~~~~~~~d~T~~~~P~~~~~~T~W~~P~~

Encoding the whole 916 bit message for 7 bits ASCII, reading right to left through the 916 bits (who knows ..?):

Q~^&~~~J~(l~JE*E/~)e~~~^,~~U~9$D/~K~~~~U+IEB""8~~M""~~4JA~T~~~d~%<L+~*y*N)~~~^,~*8l&#~Hf2~r&3~Da28~&+~@d09YYY~~$N(~JT~q<N/~HU~%<F~Pj
""%<L*~~~~QX~~~U~^*SJ$*9<X*~*~rI~^/~~$*%*W~~~Dp~A~D(~i~~~(N(~H~Jy~V*UrU~R$*9<X.TqXLF3~Ld1dLf+~Bdp~LV~~H`s3324*I~P+~(%by~^)~*~Jy~A!U
DJy~T$~(~#0N*~*~<U~~HTry0T""T~e~~<^,~HTJU.&~~~`%~5~P)R*~*Q~P#~)~r1,U+e*9$HTry0])c1~~f#~HcI~LV~~I`1~,~~~AfffdhU~9~V*PKEr9<R""T~~r~~C*
~~r1(H$P*Fa~T*T*y*N)~)era(E(~J$""y<X!~)~*\L,~~@J~j~~S$T~U""9~F~R+dbY*WJTrI~)era:SFb2~LF3~G~3~,&~~@b2X~~#~MMMIQ*$rA,U!~~dry$E(~+d2~~T
~+dbQ~I~U~B9(U(UrU~R""SKeBQ~P~~HEry0B""R*U9~X$~~~~T""A&I(~*DrA~A$WIE2U/~)e~""SKeBu~~Dd3~~f#~$f2XL~~~De0~~F~~~~~""TIe~Y*B.~IerI~P$WHd~~(
$WIE""!~A*~~rQ*Q+e*9$E~~K~""~~N)~~era~E$U*r10HN~(~(E~M~P""U~e~~~I/~~e*^*SJ$E~~K~jN~~Hf2~LF~ILe1~,N~~J`0~~~666&E)~J~2U~\/~Ke~~~I/~H~~Q
I/~~DB%~T6~e""U""WJTrI~N/~~D*A~R""~KeB~~I*Udba~~~P&Q~~~%~E*~J~2~~^&~JU<U~~I~N/~~U~6~~Ld3~~9~~Jb0Y~~~~@`2~~lllM~R~~~e*~8^~~J$*A~^#~(5""

[puddlepirate]

So, still total gibberish then?

[Frank]

So, still total gibberish then?

Yep, only the 8-bit ASCII based decoding yields some meaningful fragments (that can be found here: http://www.rendlesham-incident.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=897&start=100#p8653)

So we know that the one who made this message:
- Knew English.
- Had access to a 20th century 8-bit ASCII translation table or program.
- Used 8-bit ASCII from left to right (the chance that any other binary code would also coincidentally yield "EXPLORATIONOGHUMANITY" in ASCII in the first 168 bits is very small).
- Conveyed an English message with only capitals and numbers; no periods, no space between words, no small letters.
- Made quite some mistakes in the binary code.
- Probably misspelled "COORDINATE" (the R was missing, the chance that random bit errors erase exactly and only the 8 consecutive bits of 'R' are very small).

Let's see what we can learn from the rest of the code ..

[arvd]

What utter crap.

[puddlepirate]

I admire both the time spent and due diligence given by those who have attempted to make sense of the code but goodness me, this has to be the biggest non-event in the entire history of ufology! I'm reminded of past experiments where chimpanzees were given a box of paints and their efforts then analysed by experts in modern art (not knowing they were looking at the work of chimpanzees). The tosh these experts came out with was incredible.....comments ranging from 'incredible understanding of light and shade', 'imposing knowledge of composition', 'juxtaposition of linear and circular imagery creates a powerful dynamic' blah blah blah. The code can be played with, run through the most powerful computers on the planet and analysed by the greatest living computer scientists but it will still be no better than what it actually is -i.e. a load of meaningless Is and 0s. A message for mankind? My freakin' arse!!!

[IanR]

So if the coordinates point to Woodbridge, the message in effect says: "You are here".

Ian

[puddlepirate]

One snag that I overlooked - and why Google Earth came up with Woodbridge when using Linda M-H co-ordinates I have no idea - but Woodbridge is EAST of the Greenwich meridian, not west... therefore 52.0942532N 1.3131269W cannot be Woodbridge, in fact it is a field next to the A361 between Little Bourton and Chacombe just north of the M40 motorway. However, if you enter 52.0942532N 1.3131269E that IS Woodbridge....looks like the very common navigational error of plotting a reciprocal course.

[arvd]

So if the coordinates point to Woodbridge, the message in effect says: "You are here".

Ian

lol

[IanR]

looks like the very common navigational error of plotting a reciprocal course.

I wonder whether the aliens have one of those voices on their satnav that says "at the next solar system take the third planet..."

Ian

[puddlepirate]

or that irritating woman saying 'Turn around......'

[Admin]

Another update from LMH: http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1804&category=Environment

[IanR]

Another update from LMH: http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1804&category=Environment

This is like discussing how many aliens can dance on the head of a pin, isn't it?

Ian

[Frank]

Another update from LMH: http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1 ... nvironment

LMH:
"apply 8-bit all the way through and see what that produces. Then apply 7-bit all the way through, see what that produces and compare with the 8-bit translation.
After those runs, we need to move over one bit and do it all over again in 8-bits and 7-bits. Then move over one more bit and keep repeating the analysis process"

That's exactly what I did in my posts above, each new line moves over one bit and repeats the analysis process from there.

My conclusion is who ever wrote the code used Google Earth to find the decimal coordinates.

Sure looks like it.
Did you know someone figured out that moving 8100 meters at a direction of 66,6 degrees from the Woodbridge location takes you to the Bentwaters runway?
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread645073/pg13, scroll to 60%.
The message seems to read '6668100' right in front of the coordinates, but there's something wrong with the '666'. All three binary codes miss a 0 at the end, as if someone copied the binary code for a '6' (missing the last 0) and then knew this code had to be copied twice, so simply copied the code already written two times. This resulted in the same mistake three times in a row:
…
01010100 01011001
0011011 0011011
0011011 00111000
…

So if the coordinates point to Woodbridge, the message in effect says: "You are here".

Yes, I would rather expect something like: "We are there"... Guess this feature is not included in Google Earth.

[puddlepirate]

Frank

You might do better forgetting ASCII and instead using the old Baudot-Murray code / International Code No 2. It's the code teleprinters used and in 1980 it was still being used for some areas of military comms. It uses only five bits and gives a direct translation to machine functions such as line feed, carriage return, letter shift, figure shift plus alpha numeric characters. You can find a binary translation of each letter, figure, space etc on the web. Remember though, each carriage return (00010) requires a line feed (01000) directly afterwards to prevent overprinting and all characters following a letter shift (11111) will be alpha and all characters following a figure shift (11011) will be numeric. This continues until the next letter or figure shift. Punctuation marks, ampersand, dollar sign, etc are numeric. You'll definitely get an alpha / numeric translation for each 5 bit group but it will still probably be garbled rubbish - or you might strike lucky and find it's an encrypted grouper, in which case you'll need to find out which encryption key was used.

[Ignis Fatuus]

Ian
wonder whether the aliens have one of those voices on their satnav that says "at the next solar system take the third planet..."

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PP
or that irritating woman saying 'Turn around......'

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Admin
Another update from LMH: http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1 ... nvironment

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[Frank]

Frank

You might do better forgetting ASCII and instead using the old Baudot-Murray code / International Code No 2. It's the code teleprinters used and in 1980 it was still being used for some areas of military comms. It uses only five bits and gives a direct translation to machine functions such as line feed, carriage return, letter shift, figure shift plus alpha numeric characters. You can find a binary translation of each letter, figure, space etc on the web. Remember though, each carriage return (00010) requires a line feed (01000) directly afterwards to prevent overprinting and all characters following a letter shift (11111) will be alpha and all characters following a figure shift (11011) will be numeric. This continues until the next letter or figure shift. Punctuation marks, ampersand, dollar sign, etc are numeric. You'll definitely get an alpha / numeric translation for each 5 bit group but it will still probably be garbled rubbish - or you might strike lucky and find it's an encrypted grouper, in which case you'll need to find out which encryption key was used.

Thanks for the tip Puddlepirate, but I’ll pass.

I’m convinced the message is in 8-bit ASCII. The chances that any other binary code gives such big fragments of English in 8-bit ASCII by coincidence are a googolplex to one.

The only reason I tried 7 bit ASCII is because of the three 7-bit fragments mentioned above, but the rest of the message did not give anything useful in 7 bits.

It seems these three 7-bit fragments all contain the same error that was repeated three times – which to me is a clue that this binary code was written by copying the 8-bit sequences by hand from an ASCII table: The first sequence was copied from the table with an error and then the writer of the message simply repeated this first sequence two times because he knew he wanted to write the same character three times in a row.

Assuming three identical characters, the ‘three times 0011011’ fragment could be ‘333’ (00110011) ‘777’ (00110111), ‘555’ (00110101) or ‘666’ (00110110). All other 8-bit variations based on adding one bit to 0011011 do not give a number or a letter. Talking about irony: ‘the devil is in the details’ is illustrated by a fragment that could be ‘666’.

If this fragment is really meant to point at the Bentwaters base from Woodbridge at an angle of 66,6 degrees (see post above), maybe the writer of the message meant to say ‘the devil takes you to nuclear arms’ – that would be an ingenious way to ‘hide a message within a message’.
Alas, the rest of the message does not seem this ingenious ..

I think I'll take a backseat for a while and enjoy the posts of Ignis - maybe that will take away the hangover I got from this case ..

[puddlepirate]

Pity because. if you take your 3 times 0011011 or 001101100110110011011 and break it into five digit groups: 00110 11001 10110 01101 1
then decode those groups using Murray Code What you get is:

00110 = N
10011 = B
01100 = I
11011 = Figure shift

Then whatever the next group is (starting with 1) will be numeric....

Murray code was a basic binary code still widely used in 1980 so if the aliens wanted to convey an imporant message for all mankind to the US military, they'd be on pretty safe ground using a code that had been around since the 19th century. Much better than having to decide on 7 or 8 bit ASCII and leaving things to chance, surely?

[AdrianF]

Re: Sat Nav woman.. A young guy fell asleep during LMH's talk at the reunion. He was catching flies and then jumped when the girl he was with poked his ear. So it might not be a good idea to listen to her while driving!