Who Inspected The Craft ?

[IanR]

I know it must seem insignificant, but the strangest thing about the whole RFI for me is the Halt tape. To me, when you hear Halt say "STRANGE" or "THERES SOMTHING VERY STRANGE" or "WIERD", it sounds like something out of a film. To me it sounds very corney.
What do you think ?

Actually I agree with you. I don't think the tape is a fake and never have (paradoxically, the only people to have seriously questioned it are some of the believers). But it does sound as though Halt is hamming it up at times. Why? I suspect he was being kind to his troops. He probably thought to himself "You've brought me out here just to see this?". Recall, for example, his tone of disappointment right at the start when he sees the 'landing marks'. He didn't want to sound overly critical so he tried to sound impressed, and failed.

But that, I emphasize, is just an opinion, not something that Halt has told me.

Ian

[stephan]

yes, I also think that the tape doesn't sound very UFOish. As Halt stated himself (and as far as I remember) he went out there to debunk. And maybe that's just what he did. Could be he wanted to check how people would respond. Therefore he would have ''played stupid'', i.e. interpreting the lighthouse and celestial objects as UFOs. This way he would have been able to check their reactions, maybe both during and after the recording when he (possibly) played it to others. To ''initiate'' the observations he carried out radiation readings on the alleged landing site. This way the ''return of the UFOs'' would have appeared more plausible. But that, I emphasize, too, is just an opinion , not something that I have direct proof for

[puddlepirate]

I can't speak for Col Halt but if I'd been dragged out of a cock 'n' arse party to go traipsing around the woods in the early hours and all I saw was 'odd lights' and some marks in the ground. I'd be totally hacked off. Never mind hamming it up, I'd have a total sense of humour failure and would get the clowns I was dealing with lined up, stood at attention and explain in no uncertain terms the error of their ways.

Conversely, if I had summond my boss from a social function claiming 'it's back.....' and his response was 'what's back?' I'd want to make bloody sure I wasn't talking crap because I'd know full well what would happen next (see above). In fact, I probably wouldn't fetch him from the party at all. I'd call on the phone first, just to give him a heads up on a 'Sir, I thought you should know....' basis. Just to cover my own arse and make sure it wouldn't be mine that was on the line.

[arvd]

There is the possibility, dare i suggest, that they where all in on it. Just because this is col Halt doesnt mean he doesnt like a bit of trickery. After all, they where hardly in the trenches in the middle of a world war.

[larry warren]

We were in on nothing ! no colussion, no games, no,lets see if we can have a laugh and keep it going for the next 30 years!
we were not in the trenches and i beleive that type of warfair ceased in 1918, we were in the Cold War, and frankly, the stakes
were higher. cheers

[arvd]

Hi Larry, where was Jim Penniston on the second night ?

[Frank]

hi arvd,

I'm not Larry but maybe I can help:

To my knowledge Jim got six days leave after the first night (25/26) to recover from what he experienced (lighthouses have a big impact on people's lives, you see ..).
However, he was called back on the morning of the 27th to report what he saw (the lighthouse apparently got lost ..).

Something must have happened that second night that made them call Jim back in. Nevels was visited by Englund in the afternoon of that same day (the 27th) to participate in a top-secret investigation.

(Speculation: What if Jim went back the second night for some reason ..? Suddenly the timeline in his notebook starts to make sense then.)

[Ignis Fatuus]

Speculation....

Yep that's all their UFO fantasy will ever be. Spoiler Alert - They don't have any Earth shattering revelations, just a bit of revisionist history regarding location. Their little event comes and goes and nobody but their Big Gay Fan Base gives a crap. Be careful you don't end up paying a tithe to Rev Jim.
All the best Frank, it's been weird knowing you.
P.S the ball has been moved so far forward they haven't any idea what game is being played, let alone where the Stadium is.

[John Burroughs]

Yawn!! Why are you still talking about it then?????? And since your checking out was that pumkin suppose to help with the little man syndrome you suffer from???

[Frank]

Speculation....
Yep that's all their UFO fantasy will ever be.

Ignis, maybe it’s time to take that pumpkin from your head.

Look at the facts:

- The facts show without any reasonable doubt that Halt and his men witnessed unidentified objects with colored lights on them that moved fast across the sky, and one of them emitted beams to the ground. We have this real-time on audio tape. If you still doubt that, you might as well doubt Jesus ever walked this Earth (the evidence for that is weaker).

- The facts also show that the red, sun-like object witnessed by Halt was not at 110 degrees, but to the left of the lighthouse when Halt viewed it through the star scope. There actually were two objects, one to the left and on in front. The one in front initially was at 110 degrees but then came to the left just before Halt viewed it through the star scope. Again, we have this real-time on audio tape (http://www.rendlesham-incident.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=838).

- The phenomenon in the drawing made by John shortly after the incident is unexplained. A red + orange light that moves back and forth, up and down. When it sits in one place a cone shaped, orange + red beam comes out and the trees below are illuminated with a white light. Blue balls of light come out of the beam and the white light below. There is no match whatsoever with a lighthouse or a vehicle (the object was in the air, since it illuminated the trees below.). This is eye witness testimony produced shortly after the incident.

So there can be no reasonable doubt that Halt and John both witnessed Unidentified Flying Objects. No more, no less. Is there undeniable proof it was ET? NO. It is unexplained, that’s all.


The only pieces of the puzzle left are Larry’s account of a landed craft and Jim’s account of a landed craft. These stories just do not seem to fit with the rest of the data. Does that mean they are not true? NO. The data in the public domain may be incomplete. So why these stories are not backed up by the available data is unexplained, that’s all. And until they are you cannot be certain that they are factual.

[larry warren]

I dident know we had a gay following ? great !
must be the men in uniform thing.............................

[JamesLA]

Hey Larry, Do you live in England now? I envy you. I would love to live there. I've always been rather fond of the British history and culture. Cheers!

James in L.A.

[AgentAppleseed]

Big Gay Fan Base

I dident know we had a gay following ? great !
must be the men in uniform thing.............................

You dont!

Yeah, o.k! Maybe one day, when theres no more to be said or done or investigated where the R.F.I is concerned, some of you guys will then have a promising career doing stand up, yeah?!

Real comedians! You certainly make me laugh, every time!