May 2010 Transcript of Col Halt tape - Timings/Missing time

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UPDATE July 2nd - This transcript is redundant and has been replaced by a more accurate one here: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=751




Hi
Well here is the transcript but split into time. For instance if someone starts talking, I have timed how long the talking goes on for before there is a tape break. It will help with being able to work out when something happened. I will do each section in alternate colours. At the beginning of each section I will put in brackets how long in mins/seconds/tenths of seconds that piece of talking goes on for. It shows for instance that Halt say 3.05 twice. Now it has been implied on a website or two that this clearly meant Halt was just guessing at times. NOT true. In fact I will show in this example why.

(Break in tape)
LT COLONEL HALT: 3.05 We see strange err, strobe like flashes to the err. .
(break in tape)
Lt COLONEL HALT: Almost sporadic, but there's definitely something there, some kind of phenomena.
SGT NEVILLES: Readouts. .
(break in tape)
LT COLONEL HALT: 3.05 at about err . . . 10 degrees horizon err directly north, we got two strange objects, err . . . . half moon shape, dancing about with coloured lights on them. But. .

etc. . . . . So the implication is, that if he said the same time twice with all that time in between he was clearly not properly aware of the time and the debunkers have a field day.

Now with timings and text colour separation:

(Break in tape)
LT COLONEL HALT: 3.05 We see strange err, strobe like flashes to the err. . (5.4 secs)
(break in tape)
Lt COLONEL HALT: Almost sporadic, but there's definitely something there, some kind of phenomena.
SGT NEVILLES: Redouts. . .(4.1 secs)
(break in tape)
LT COLONEL HALT: 3.05 at about err . . . 10 degrees horizon err directly north, we got two strange objects, err . . . . half moon shape, dancing about with coloured lights on them. But. .

This proves that 9.5 seconds had passed between the first 3.05 and the second 3.05. So of course it was still 3.05 because only 9.5 seconds had passed. In fact had it just turned 3.05 we can say that the most we are missing is 50.5 seconds of activity but probably less.

So I have done this for the whole transcript in case it can throw up more info like the above. Which in itself gives another small notch of credibility to the tape.

HALT TAPE TRANSCRIPT MAY 2010 - Timings/missing time.


LT COLONEL HALT: 150 feet or more from the initial, I should. . . .
SGT NEVILLES: . . .spots up on the. . .
LT COLONEL HALT: . . .say suspected impact point.
LT ENGLUND: Right?
LT COLONEL HALT: Having a difficulty can't get the light all to work.
BACKGROUND: best leave the car
LT ENGLUND: . . . on foot?. . .
LT COLONEL HALT: . . . seems to be some kind of mechanical problem. . .
SGT NEVILLES: Yes
LT COLONEL HALT: . . . gonna send back, get another light all. Meantime, we're gonna take some readings from the Geiger counter, and err, chase around the area a little bit waiting for another light-all to come back in.
LT COLONEL HALT: Six
SGT NEVILLES: …still in enough?
RADIO: . . .to security control. .
LT COLONELY HALT: Yes.
SGT BUSTINZA:. . .still don’t have the tank a gas. .
SGT NEVILLES: That's mark one and five to pod number...
LT COLONEL HALT: OK, we're now approaching an area within about 25 30 feet. What kind of readings are we getting anything?
SGT NEVILLES: Just minor clicks.
LT. COLONEL HALT: Minor clicks?(36.5 secs)
(BREAK IN TAPE)
We know that this next passage started at about 01.23 AM because it takes 1.49 to say the next passage and at the end of that Englund says at approx 01.25 hours.
UNKNOWN: Do you think it's going to be a nice day out today?
UNKNOWN REPLY: Yeah, I think so. *this is an accidental recording over tape*
LT COLONEL HALT: What are the impressions?
SGT NEVILLES: Just one, but...
LT COLONEL HALT: Is that all the bigger they are?
SGT NEVILLES: Well, there's one more well defined over here.
SGT BUSTINZA: [on a radio] ...Sergeant Bustinza to security control...
LT COLONEL HALT: We're still getting clicks
SGT NEVILLES:. . . .getting clicks.
RADIO: Job/Drop to focus.
SGT BUSTINZA: We're outta gas, could you make your way, east gate..
LT COLONEL HALT: Can you read that on the scale?
SGT NEVILLES: Yes Sir. We're now on a five tenths scale and we're reading about..er..third, fourth make over (mark?)
LT COLONEL HALT: Yeah but yeah we're still comfortably sa safe here?
RADIO: You don't have a light-all?
SGT BUSTINZA: That is right.
RADIO: Duty security. Can you hear me Sergeant?
SGT BUSTINZA: Can you send out a light all, with gas, please.
LT COLONEL HALT: We're still getting minor readings second pod indentation?
SGT BUSTINZA:... security gate to security.
SGT NEVILLES: Nope.
LT COLONEL HALT: This one's dead, let's go to the third one over here.
SGT NEVILLES: Sort of, whatever it is.
RADIO: Sergeant Bustinza . . . .
SGT NEVILLES: Yes, now getting some residual.
SGT BUSTINZA: Security
LT COLONEL HALT: I can really tell, the a meters
RADIO: Where are they?
SGT NEVILLES: . . . definitely giving a little pulse.
SGT BUSTINZA: GO to your post.
RADIO: Security copy.
LT ENGLUND: About the centre.
LT COLONEL HALT: Yes, I was gonna say, let's go to the centre of the area next, see what kind of reading we get out there. Keep reading the clicks. I can't hear the clicks. Guess you all... is that about centre Bruce.
LT ENGLUND: Yes
LT COLONEL HALT: OK let's go to the centre.
SGT NEVILLES: Yes I'm getting more...
LT COLONEL HALT: That's that's the best ind. . . best deflection of the needle I've seen yet. OK, can you give me an estimation? We're on a point five sc scale, we're getting...
SOUNDS LIKE A HELICOPTER GOES OVER WHICH REMAINS IN BACKGROUND. COULD BE A VEHICLE.
SGT NEVILLES: having trouble reading the scale.
LT ENGLUND: At err, approximately 01:25 hours.
UNKOWN: Deep cough which echoes.
SGT NEVILLES: We're getting right at err a half a millirem
UNKNOWN VOICE: Chuck. .I minute 49.5 secs
(BREAK IN TAPE OVER RECORDING OF PIANO MUSIC)
LT COLONEL HALT: ... best point, I don't see it go any higher.
SGT NEVILLES: Well, it's still flying around.
LT COLONEL HALT: OK we'll go out toward the the...
SGT NEVILLES: Now it's picking up...
LT COLONEL HALT: This is out toward the number one indentation.
LT ENGLUND: Where it was.
LT COLONEL HALT: Where we first got the strongest reading. Yeah it's similar to what we got in the centre.
SGT NEVILLES: Right near the pod. It's right near the centre.
LT ENGLUND: This looks like an area here possibly that could be a blast. It's in the centre of the triangle. .
LT COLONEL HALT: . .here take it my fingers are about to freeze. .
SGT NEVILLES: Here’s two (meaning pod marking). .
(BREAK IN TAPE)
LT ENGLUND: It jumped towards seven...
LT COLONEL HALT: What?
LT ENGLUND: It just jumped up towards seven tenths there.
LT COLONEL HALT: Seven tenths, right there in the centre?
LT ENGLUND: Uh ha.
LT COLONEL HALT: We found a small blast what looks like a blasted or scrubbed up area here. We're getting very positive readings. Let's see, is that near the centre?
LT ENGLUND: Yes it is this is what we would assume to be the dead centre.
SGT NEVILLES: picking up more as you go along the whole area there now.
LT COLONEL HALT: Up to seven tenths or seven...
SGT BUSTINZA: Security 5 this is our last call.
LT COLONEL HALT: ... or seven units its called on the point five scale.
LT COLONEL HALT: OK why don't we do this, why don't we make a sweep now I've got my gloves on now, let's make a sweep out around the whole area about ten foot out and make a perimeter run around it, starting right back at here at the corner, a back at the same first corner where we came in let's go right back here... but I'm gonna have to depend upon you to count the clicks.
SGT NEVILLES: Right.
LT ENGLUND: Why, does anyone think it. . .
LT COLOLNEL HALT: Ok lets start.
LT ENGLUND: . . . .matters?
LT COLONEL HALT: Yeah ok put the light on it an sweep around it.
BACKGROUND: It was black?(1 Minute 42.8 secs)
(BREAK IN TAPE)
LT COLONEL HALT: Put it on the ground every once in a while.
BACKGROUND: We have those lights nearby keep your eyes open.
LT ENGLUND: This looks like an abrasion on the tree...
LT COLONEL HALT: OK, we'll catch that on the way back, let's go around we'll go back get it then.
LT ENGLUND: We're getting interest right over here. It looks like it's abrasion pointing into the centre...
LT COLONEL HALT: It is.
LT ENGLUND: ... of the landing area.
LT COLONEL HALT: it may be old though…
LT ENGLUND: . . .Uh hu. . .
LT COLONEL HALT: …there's some sap marks or something like that. Let's go on back around.(28.6 secs)
(BREAK IN TAPE)
CLICKING SOUND HERE – CHANGING THE SCALE ON METER
SGT NEVILLES: That’s what it gives.
LT ENGLUND: . . .some extension on that.
LT COLONEL HALT: Hey, this is an awkward thing to use, isn't it?
SGT NEVILLES: Normally you see I carry it on my, on my ears but this one’s broke.
LT COLONEL HALT: Are we getting any further I'm gonna shut this recorder off until we find something. . .
SGT NEVILLES: Picking up
LT COLONEL HALT: Pickin up. What are we up to? We're up to two-three units deflection, you're getting in close to one pod?
LT ENGLUND: . . . astonishing. .
SGT NEVILLES: Picking up something... picking up.
LT COLONEL HALT: K, It's still not going above three or four units.
SGT NEVILLES: Picking up more though, more frequent.
LT ENGLUND: On that?
LT COLONEL HALT: Yes, you're staying. . . .
SGT NEVILLES: Yeah
LT COLONEL HALT: . . . you're stay staying steady up around two to three to four units now.
LT ENGLUND: Colonel Halt.
RADIO: Cant translate and its not 155.
LT COLONEL HALT: Yeah.
LT ENGLUND: Each one of these trees that face in a the blast, what we assume is a landing site, all have an abrasion facing in the same direction towards the centre. The same...
LT COLONEL HALT:. . .the centre of the thing was, let's go literally around the circle here. Turn back down here.
SGT BALL: Try the other tree.
SGT NEVILLES: Picking up something a, collection. . .
LT COLONEL HALT: Let me see that.
SGT NEVILLES: You know I've got a
LT COLONEL HALT: its funny that’s that’s .. you're right about the abrasion. I've never seen a tree that's, err...
SGT BALL: That's a small sap mark.
LT COLONEL HALT: . . .I've never seen a pine tree that's been damaged, react that fast.
SGT NEVILLES: You got a bottle to put that in?
SGT NEVILLES: Ok
LT COLONEL HALT: You got a sample bottle?
SGT NEVILLES: Yes here it is.
LT ENGLUND: That is for the soil, put the soil sample...
LT COLONEL HALT: Yeah here stick this on the ground.
LT ENGLUND: From what?
(noise of the AN PDR27 F being clunked around. I am used to that sound).
SGT NEVILLES: Thank you.
LT ENGLUND: You'll notice they're all at the same height.
LT COLONEL HALT: Right . . OK . . from now on let's let's let's identify that as point number one. That stake there. So you all know where it is if we have to sketch it. You got that Sergeant Nevilles?
SGT NEVILLES: Yes Sir. Closest to the Woodbridge...
LT COLONEL HALT: Closest to the Woodbridge base.
SGT NEVILLES: Be point one?
CAR BREAK SCREECH
LT COLONEL HALT: Be point one. Let's go clockwise from there.
BACKGROUND: You got it?
SGT NEVILLES: Point two?
SGT BALL: Go ahead Aitkin?
LT COLONEL HALT: Point two. So this tree is between two and point three.
RADIO: To let Aitkin, Burroughs and two other personnel requesting each a ride in on a jeep, at your, your location.
SGT BALL: Tell them negative at this time. We'll tell them when they can come out here. We don't want them out here right now.
LT COLONEL HALT: OK the sample, your gonna want this sample number one?
SGT NEVILLES: Yes Sir.
LT COLONEL HALT: Have em cut it off, an include some of that sap an all... is between indentation two and three on a pine tree about err...about...about five feet away... about three and half feet off the ground.
SGT NEVILLES: ...I'll just put it in there for now, I've got some more where we're goin...
LT COLONEL HALT: There's a round abrasion on the tree about a three and a half, four inches in diameter. It looks like it might be old, but er, strange there's a crystalline...pine sap that's come that fast.
UNKNOWN SOME WAY AWAY: That’s mighty queer.
LT COLONEL HALT: You say there are other trees that are damaged in a similar fashion?
LT ENGLUND: Yes all from the report of the centre of the landing site.
LT COLONEL HALT: OK, why don't you take a picture of that and remember your picture. We ain't gonna be writing this down well it's gonna be on the tape.
LT ENGLUND: You got a tape measure with you?
LT COLONEL HALT: This is your picture, the a first picture will be at the first tree, the one between err... mark two and three. Meantime, I'm gonna look at a couple of those trees over here.(3 Minutes 2.7 secs)
(BREAK IN TAPE)
SGT NEVILLES: We are getting some...
LT COLONEL HALT: You're getting readings on the tree you're taking samples from on the s side facing the suspected landing site?
LT ENGLUND: Four clicks max.
LT COLONEL HALT: Up to four, interesting. That's right were you're taking the sample now?
LT ENGLUND: Four.
LT COLONEL HALT: That's the strongest point on the tree?
SGT NEVILLES: Yes sir, and if you come to the back, there's no clicks whatsoever.
LT COLONEL HALT: No clicks at all in the back.
SGT NEVILLES: Maybe one or two.
LT COLONEL HALT: It's all on the side facing the... interesting.(25.4 secs
(BREAK IN TAPE)
LT COLONEL HALT: The indentations looks like something twisted as it drop.. you know... as it sat down on it, looks like something took something and sat it down and twisted it from side to side.
LT ENGLUND: Uh hu.
LT COLONEL HALT: Very strange.(9.6 secs)
(BREAK IN TAPE)
LT COLONEL HALT: We're looking at the same tree we took a sample off with this, what do you call it... the starscope.
LT ENGLUND: Uh hu, Stargazer
LT COLONEL HALT: Getting a definite heat reflection off the tree, about three to four feet off the ground?
LT ENGLUND: Yes the same side as it.
LT COLONEL HALT: The same place where the spot is, we're getting a heat. .
SGT BALL: There's a spot on the tree directly behind us I picked up the same thing, the one off to your right.
LT ENGLUND: Alright lemmi. . .
LT COLONEL HALT: Three trees in the area immediately adjacent to the site within ten feet of the suspected landing site; we're picking up heat reflection off the trees.
LT ENGLUND: Shine the light on it Bob.
LT COLONEL HALT: What's that again?
SGT BALL: Where?
LT ENGLUND: Shine the light on again Bob
LT COLONEL HALT: Why, you having trouble finding it... turn the light on.
LT ENGLUND: ... right on this spot an then when you want to, you go right and you'll notice the white.
[A whistle starts which seems to silence the men although it could be the starscope as suggested by Ian Ridpath. However this only happens for a short time and never again during the tape despite the fact that they continue to use the starscope!]
LT COLONEL HALT: Hey... [Long silent gap apart from humming noise]
LT COLONEL HALT: You're right there's a little white streak on the tree.
LT ENGLUND: Indicates er heat...
LT COLONEL HALT: Let me turn it on of this tree over here now. Just a second. Watch, because you're right in front of the tree.
LT ENGLUND: On this side.
LT COLONEL HALT: I can see it. OK, wait a minute give me a little side light so I can find the tree. OK, ahh...
RADIO: Alpha to security...
LT COLONEL HALT: I've lost the tree.
RADIO: (cant translate this)
LT COLONEL HALT: OK stop! Stop! Light off. Hey, this is eerie.
SGT BALL: Why don't you do the pod spots then the centre...
LT COLONEL HALT: This is strange! Here, someone wanna look at the spots on the ground? Whoops! Watch you don't step, we're walking all over. . .
BACKGROUND: Car horn sound from a vehicle arriving on the scene.
SGT NEVILLES: . . . walk carefully Sir
LT ENGLUND: This one is definitely. . .
LT COLONEL HALT: OK, let's step back and don't walk all over em.
LT ENGLUND: Looks OK.
LT COLONEL HALT: Come back here - somebody and put a beam on em. I mean you're gonna have to be back about ten, fifteen feet. You see it ...
SGT BALL: OK fine...
LT COLONEL HALT: OK, lights off.(1 Minute 45.1 secs)
(BREAK IN TAPE)
VOICE OVER: [Colonel Conrad?] He took this long to document...(1.2 secs
LT COLONEL HALT: What do you think about the spot?
BACKGROUND SHOUTING: He's moving! . . He's moving!
SGT BALL?: we need a direction.
LT COLONEL HALT: Yeah.
LT COLONEL HALT: ... ready at the first spot? OK, that's what we'll call a spot number three. Let's go to the back corner and get spot number one.
BACKGROUND: He's heading over
LT COLONEL HALT: Spot number one, here's spot number one right here, spot number one right here.
SGT NEVILLES: We could use some light.
LT COLONEL HALT: Do you need some light? There it is right here. ... you focused?
BACKGROUND: . . closer.
SGT NEVILLES: Focused.
LT COLONEL HALT: OK... looking at spot number one through the starlight scope.
LT ENGLUND: Picking up a slight increase in light as I go over it.
LT COLONEL HALT: Slight increase in light in spot number one. Let's go look at spot number two. Spot number two's right over here. Right here, see it?
LT ENGLUND:... Slight increase spot one.
LT COLONEL HALT: OK, get focused on it. Tell me when,
UNKNOWN: Get right in on it.
LT COLONEL HALT: OK lights on. Let's see what we get on it.
RADIO: . . . . from the base heading North.
LT ENGLUND: There's a slight increase.
LT COLONEL HALT: Just a slight increase?
SGT BALL: Try the centre.
LT COLONEL HALT: The centre spot, no not only is it in the centre, its slightly off centre. It's right there.
LT ENGLUND: Right here, lets mark that ah. .
LT COLONEL HALT: OK, we're gonna get your reading on it right there.
LT ENGLUND: OK.
LT COLONEL HALT: Tell me when you're ready.
LT ENGLUND: Ready.
LT COLONEL HALT: OK lights out. It's the centre spot we're looking at now; wel-almost the centre.
LT ENGLUND: Getting a slight increase.
LT COLONEL HALT: Slight increase there. This is slightly off centre toward the err... one - two side. It's er... some type of abrasion or something in the ground were the pine needles are pushed back were we get a high radiact... err higher reading about a deflection of er, two to three, maybe four, depending on the point of it.
LT ENGLUND: Someone wanna check it?
SGT NEVILLES: Yes.
LT COLONEL HALT: Are you sure there's a positive after effect?
SGT NEVILLES: Yes, there is, definitely.
UNKNOWN: I can see a light movin.
LT ENGLUND: That's on the centre spot, there is an after effect.
SGT NEVILLES: What does that mean?
LT ENGLUND: It means that when the lights are turned off, once we all focused in, allow time for the eyes to adjust, we are getting an indication of a heat source coming out of that centre spot... as err... which will show up on the ...
LT COLONEL HALT: Heat or some form of energy, it's hardly heat at this stage of the game.(2 Minutes 20.2 secs)
(BREAK IN TAPE)
LT ENGLUND: But it is still heat...
LT COLONEL HALT: Looking directly overhead, one can see an opening in the trees, plus some freshly a broken pine branches on the ground underneath. Looks like some of them came off about fifteen to twenty feet up. Some smaller branches about inch or less in diameter.(14.8 secs)
(BREAK IN TAPE)
LT COLONEL HALT: 01.48. We're hearing very strange sounds out of the farmer’s barnyard animals. There's. . .
SGT NEVILLES: . . . twenty eighth a December. . .
LT COLONEL HALT:.. . very very active and making an awful lot of noise.(8.7secs)
(BREAK IN TAPE)
LT ENGLUND: ... definite pigmentation...
LT COLONEL HALT: You just saw a light?
LT ENGLUND: Yeah.
LT COLONEL HALT: Where. .wai. .wai . . wait a. .slow down. Where?
LT ENGLUND: Right on this position here straight ahead in between the tre. . . .there it is again. . . .
(DOG BARKING)
(stomach grumble noise)
LT ENGLUND: . . .watch, straight ahead off my flashlight there Sir, there it is.
LT COLONEL HALT: Hey I see it too. What is it?
LT ENGLUND: We don't know Sir.
SGT NEVILLES: So your, can I use some bodies help ri. . .
LT COLONEL HALT: Yeah it's a strange small red light, looks to be out maybe a quarter to a half mile, maybe further out. I'm gonna switch off for a...(26.8 secs)
(BREAK IN TAPE)
LT COLONEL HALT: The light is gone now. It was approximately 120 degrees from the site.
LT ENGLUND: It's back again.
LT COLONEL HALT: Is it back again?
LT ENGLUND: Yes sir.
LT COLONEL HALT: Well douse flashlights then. (8.2secs)
(BREAK IN TAPE)
LT COLONEL HALT: Let's go back to the edge of the clearing, so we can get a better look at it. See if you can get the starscope on it. (5 secs)
(BREAK IN TAPE)
LT COLONEL HALT: The light's still there and all the barnyard animals have gotten quiet now.
LT ENGLUND: There’s. . .(3 secs)
(BREAK IN TAPE)
LT COLONEL HALT: Yeah we're heading about 110, 120 degrees from the site, out through to the clearing now. Still getting a reading on the meter about 2 clicks.(6.4 secs)
(BREAK IN TAPE)
LT COLONEL HALT: Needles jumped 3 to 4 clicks getting stronger.
BACKGROUND: These flashlights are freaking.
SGT NEVILLES: Now it's stopped. Now it's coming up. Hold on, here we go. About a fraction of 4 foot off the ground. with a compass heading of a 110 degrees.
LT COLONEL HALT: Right I, he's turned the meter off. Better say that again, About 4 feet off the ground, about a 110 degrees, getting the reading of about 4 clicks?
SERGEANT NEVILLES: Yes sir.
LT COLONEL HALT: Yeah but. .
SERGEANT NEVILLES: [Sneeze] excuse me, now it's died.
LT COLONEL HALT: Now it’s died, I think it's something not on the ground. I think it's something, something very large.
LT ENGLUND: That tree right over...(31.4 sces)
(BREAK IN TAPE)
LT COLONEL HALT: We’ve just scoped the first light where we've seen, we're about a 150 -200 yards from the site. . . .
LT ENGLUND: Turning now. . .
LT COLONEL HALT: . . . . everything else is just deathly calm. (7 secs)
(BREAK IN TAPE)
LT COLONEL HALT: There is no doubt about it, there's some kind of strange flashing red light ahead.
LT ENGLUND: Yeah, It's yellow.
LT COLONEL HALT: I saw a yellow tinge in it too. Weird. It it appears to be making a little bit this way?
SGT NEVILLES: Yes sir.
LT COLONEL HALT: It's brighter than it has been
SGT NEVILLES: Yellow?
LT COLONEL HALT: It's coming this way.
SGT NEVILLES: Also
LT COLONAL HALT: It is definitely coming this way.(15.9 secs)
(BREAK IN TAPE)
SGT BALL: Pieces are shooting off.
LT COLONEL HALT: Pieces of it are shooting off.
SGT BALL: bout 11 o clock (directional reference)
LT COLONEL HALT: There's no doubt about it; this is weird.
(BREAK IN TAPE)
SGT BALL: Look to the left
SGT NEVILLES: There's two two lights. One light to the front and one light to the left.
LT COLONEL HALT: Keep your flash light off. There's something very very strange. Check the headset out see if it gets any stronger. . .
SGT NEVILLES: . . . Hang on . .
LT COLONEL HALT: ok give us readout...
SGT NEVILLES: OK, I have an indication and this is on a beta reading too
LT COLONEL HALT: A beta reading?
SGT NEVILLES: The beta shield has been removed
LT COLONEL HALT: OK(24.7 secs)
(BREAK IN TAPE)
LT COLONEL HALT: Pieces are falling off it again
SGT BALL: It just moved to the right... went off to the right
LT COLONEL HALT: Yeah ... strange, Auh.
LT COLONEL HALT: We got one again left. Let's let's approach the edge of the woods up there. Can we do without lights? Let's do it carefully, come on..(13.3 secs)
(BREAK IN TAPE):
LT COLONEL HALT: OK we're looking at the thing, we're probably about 2 to 3 hundred yards away. It looks like an eye winking at you, it's still moving from side to side and when you put the starscope on it, it, it's sort of a hollow centre right, a dark centre, it's...
LT ENGLUND: It's like a pupil...
LT COLONEL HALT: It's like the pupil of an eye looking at you, winking . ... and the flash is so bright to the starscope, that err... it almost burns your eye.(20.7 secs)
(BREAK IN TAPE)
LT COLONEL HALT: We've pass. . . interrupted with a radio transmission as you can hear the bleep and HALT turns off the recorder.(2.3 secs)
(BREAK IN TAPE)
LT COLONEL HALT: We've passed the farmer's house and are crossing the next field and we now have multiple sightings of up to five lights with a similar shape and all, but they seem to be steady now rather than pulsating a glow with a red flash.(11 secs)
(BREAK IN TAPE)
LT COLONEL HALT: We've just crossed the, the creek...
LT ENGLUND: Here we go your on now . . (meaning the meter)
LT COLONEL HALT: What kinda readings are we getting now?
SGT NEVILLES: Three click. . . .
LT COLONEL HALT: We're getting three good clicks on the meter and we're seeing strange lights in the sky.(11.9 secs)
(BREAK IN TAPE)
LT COLONEL HALT: Ah 2.44: We're at the far side of the farmers, the second farmers field and made sighting again about 110 degrees. This looks its clear out to the coast. It's right on the horizon. Moves about a bit and flashes from time to time. Still steady an red in color.(15.5 seconds)
(BREAK IN TAPE)
LT COLONEL HALT: Also, after negative readings in the farmer field, we're picking up slight readings 4 or 5 clicks now on the meter.(6.8 secs)
(BREAK IN TAPE)
LT COLONEL HALT: 3.05 We see strange err, strobe like flashes to the err.(5.4 secs)
(BREAK IN TAPE)
LT COLONEL HALT: Almost sporadic, but there's definitely something there, some kind of phenomena.
SGT NEVILLES: Relax. . (4.1 secs)
(BREAK IN TAPE)
LT COLONEL HALT: 3.05: At about err... 10 degrees horizon err directly north, we've got two strange objects, err ...half moon shape, dancing about with coloured lights on them. But . . . .
SGT NEVILES: . . . . race
LT COLONEL HALT: . . . er appears to be about 5-10 miles out. .
SGT NEVILLES: . . .spaceship. . .
LY COLONEL HALT: . . . maybe less.
SGT NEVILLES: . . . right. . . (16.5 secs)
(BREAK IN TAPE)
LT COLONEL HALT: The half moons have now turned into full circles as though there was an elip, eclipse or something there for a minute or two.(8.3 secs)
(BREAK IN TAPE)
LT COLONEL HALT: 03.15: Now we've got an object about ten degrees directly south...
SGT NEVILLES: I don’t believe their rise and lift.
LT COLONEL HALT: 10 degrees off the horizon, and the ones to the north are moving, one's moving away from us.
SGT BALL: Movin forward!
SGT NEVILLES: It's moving out fast!
LT COLONEL HALT: They're moving out fast.
SGT BALL: This one on the rights heading away too.
LT COLONEL HALT: Yeah, they're both heading north. Ok hey, here he comes from the south, he's coming in toward us now.
SGT BALL: Holy ***!(21.5 secs)
(BREAK IN TAPE)
LT COLONEL HALT: Now were observing what appears to be a beam coming down to the ground.
SGT BALL: Look at the colours... ***
LT COLONEL HALT: This is unreal (laughing).(6.6 secs)
(BREAK IN TAPE)
LT COLONEL HALT: 3.30 a 03:30 And the objects are still in the sky, although the one to the south looks like it's losing a little bit of altitude. We're turning around and heading back toward a the base. (10 secs)
(BREAK IN TAPE)
LT COLONEL HALT: The object to the sou... the object to the south is still beaming down lights to the ground.(5.2 secs)
(BREAK IN TAPE)
BACKGROUND TALKING
LT COLONEL HALT: 04:00 Hours one object still hovering over the Woodbridge base at about 5 to10 degrees off the horizon still moving erratic and similar lights an beaming down its a very a. . . (10.1 secs)
END

Right well that's it - the conclusions if any can be made as part of this being done are you can guess that the time of the incident roughly, and I mean very roughly, started at (Sir those lights are back, you better come away from the party now and come see) I would guess allowing for getting men together and instruments etc. . . 12:45 am 28th December 1980. 45 minutes or there abouts to raise the alarm, get a telephone report. Gather the men and equipment. And then we get our report of time as 01:25 at the site. Now that is cutting it tight. So maybe 10 minutes earlier than that.

The 03.05 double time reference as explained at the beginning. You could also, as long as context stays the same between breaks, assume that they are quite close - within 5 minutes maybe? If it can be done I'll do it tomorrow.

Hope this helps.

[apt]

LT COLONEL HALT: 3.05 We see strange err, strobe like flashes to the err. . (5.4 secs)
(break in tape)
Lt COLONEL HALT: Almost sporadic, but there's definitely something there, some kind of phenomena.
SGT NEVILLES: Relax(4.1 secs)
(break in tape)
LT COLONEL HALT: 3.05 at about err . . . 10 degrees horizon err directly north, we got two strange objects, err . . . . half moon shape, dancing about with coloured lights on them. But. .

This proves that 9.5 seconds had passed between the first 3.05 and the second 3.05.

No it doesn't.

Simply aggregating the length of time between two points on the tape - in which there is a break in the tape - invalidates that statement. You don't know the duration between the start of any of these break periods and any subsequent recording.

The most you can conclude is that at least 9.5 seconds had passed. It could be 1 second more or a minute more, could it not?

[Storm]

No it doesn't.

Simply aggregating the length of time between two points on the tape - in which there is a break in the tape - invalidates that statement. You don't know the duration between the start of any of these break periods and any subsequent recording.

The most you can conclude is that at least 9.5 seconds had passed. It could be 1 second more or a minute more, could it not?

It sounds like you have confused yourself in an effort to point something out that does not need pointing out because it is obvious.

I don't think I said anything to the contrary. At the start of the first 03.05 the clock starts ticking. Tape break(I have no idea how long this is for, OBVIOUSLY), second statement without time stamp, Tape break (again no idea how long for), Third statement but here he says 03.05 again so, now I know its 03.05. Well this leaves me with a problem. This leaves me with, did he make the same time statement by mistake. If so are all his other time stamps a mistake. In which case it throws the whole thing into question. As said by OTHERS on other websites.

So we set about trying to prove that it was POSSIBLE for him to make the statement 03.05, twice, legitimately. Because just assuming that it was the same time is not enough for some people. They wriggle out of any obviousness and have done - hence me doing this.

So because there is a total of 9.5 seconds of total speech across three statements. I can say it was completely possible for it to still be 03.05. As there is a potential 50.5 seconds of time - 03.05 to 03.06 (minus our 9.5) which leaves 50.5 seconds - in which we do not know what happens.

I am not saying categorically that Halt did not make a mistake. I am not saying that he judged the time correctly. I am saying that there is no reason to suspect it wasn't 03.05. I am saying that the sceptics who use the double 03.05 timestamp, as a reason to mock Halt and suggest he was as poor at reading the time as he was at identifying UFO's, that it was perfectly possible to still be 03.05.

I hope that clears it up because I really don't know another way to explain it more simply. And I have not done the timings thing for the sake of it. Its as a byprodcut of something else I am up to. Just in the process I realised about the 03.05 thing. I did the whole trasncript because someone more enlightened my also find it useful in a way that I cannot see. For instance if Halt had said that the bearing of the craft is 110 degrees, then at the end of the statement he had said it was at 140 degrees, we would be able to say that in 10 seconds of speech it had moved 30 degrees across the sky. If we can work out or use statements to say how far away it was, a potential speed could be worked out. Not that I think it can in this circumstance, but I am saying for instance. So timings are or can be very helpful, to help you look at certain aspects in a different light.

[Storm]

Actually I take that back -

LT COLONEL HALT: 03.15: Now we've got an object about ten degrees directly south...
SGT NEVILLES: I don’t believe their rise and lift.
LT COLONEL HALT: 10 degrees off the horizon, and the ones to the north are moving, one's moving away from us.
SGT BALL: Movin forward!
SGT NEVILLES: It's moving out fast!
LT COLONEL HALT: They're moving out fast.
SGT BALL: This one on the rights heading away too.
LT COLONEL HALT: Yeah, they're both heading north. Ok hey, here he comes from the south, he's coming in toward us now.
SGT BALL: Holy ***!(21.5 secs)

The one to the south was 10 degrees off the horizon, if we can ascertain how far that one was "out" (as in like the one to the North 5 to 10 miles out), then it comes toward them. In approx 21 secs its near them, sadly a tape break follows, and then its shooting down beams etc. . . but a simple email from someone who speaks to Halt could ask, where it was and when. You have the time 21 secs. So lets say roughly 7 miles out divided by 21 seconds. So to get from that distance, to their position it travelled at roughly 1 mile every 3 seconds. Quiet fast. I know I know, there were a lot of roughly's in there. But it is literally to just prove the point of how timings could be used.

[puddlepirate]

Good stuff, Storm. Very useful. Perhaps you could help resolve a query...

LT COLONEL HALT: 01.48. We're hearing very strange sounds out of the farmer’s barnyard animals. There's. . .
SGT NEVILLES: . . . twenty eighth a December. . .
LT COLONEL HALT:.. . very very active and making an awful lot of noise.(8.7secs)

Many other background noises are, apparently, recorded on the tape. A cough, various radio transmissions, snippets of conversations, a car horn, sound of an engine - helo or perhaps a vehicle. But there is no mention of the noise made by the animals. Given they were, to quote Halt 'making an awful lot of noise' it seems odd that these sounds are not on the tape, especially so given the noise made by the animals was probably of a higher frequency than some of the other background noises.

Although not part of the transcript, the sounds the animals were making have been described as being like a woman screaming. Surely this has to be on the tape?

Perhaps it could be confirmed that
(a) animal noises are / are not heard on the tape
(b) sounds of Halt's men (or others) moving around can be heard on the tape
(c) Also, somewhere amongst the posts on this thread, there was mention of the sound of brakes / tyres squealing. Is this recorded on the tape?

[Storm]

Good stuff, Storm. Very useful. Perhaps you could help resolve a query...

Perhaps it could be confirmed that
(a) animal noises are / are not heard on the tape
(b) sounds of Halt's men (or others) moving around can be heard on the tape
(c) Also, somewhere amongst the posts on this thread, there was mention of the sound of brakes / tyres squealing. Is this recorded on the tape?

OK, Hello Puddlepirate btw

Taking each of your points in turn.

(a) Animal noises on tape

As far as I am aware (and I have spent last night and this morning after seeing your post) listening to the background. I am not an acoustics expert but I am able to tune things out in my head and focus on specifics. Well we all are, but its a case of practice. If you want to have a go, try on a beach with your eyes closed and tuning out the people near you and focusing on those in the background.

Anyhow - I cannot hear any animals but and its a big but. I am not sure but judging by the way the voice levels dip and rise throughout the tape I think the recording machine had what I call an intelligent mike. I have no idea what its technical name is. I mean that it was able to open up when voices got quieter (further away) and when they got closer/louder it shut down its sensitivity. I have had over the years several personal stereos that have had this ability. Did his have that ability - no idea. But when halt is not talking you do hear far more, further away things. Also to bare in mind is that it was winter. Air density is higher. The denser the air the further sound travels. Ask anyone who knows about underwater acoustics. (Ex submariner here), that sounds travels further and faster underwater than in air. So the denser the air the faster and further sound travels through it. On cold winter mornings I used to be able to hear the train speeding over the lines, the train was 15 miles away. And there was a huge town between me and it. So technically this should increase the chances of hearing the animals. But what barnyard animals were at the farm in any case. I mean I think cows, sheep, geese, ducks, pigs. That says barnyard animals to me. However in Ridpaths account it was an arable farm so no animals. However Halts team do pass two farms dont they. "we've just past the second farmers field." Did that farm have animals. If it did it was further away obviously because it took longer along in the tape, to get there. Would the tape recorder be sensitive enough to record things say, a mile away, when it struggles to record Halt at times. I think its a moot point really because if Halt says it I believe it in this circumstance. I cannot understand why anyone would pick up on it as a possible aspect to discredit the tape. He lied about animals making noises lol. oooooooooo. Also to bare in mind in the case of "barnyard animal gate" is the fact that Halt only has in he region of 2 seconds of no speaking before he says the time. Two whole seconds of semi silence where we are supposed to hear the barnyard animals going ape before his voice drowns out any background noise. I think using 2 seconds of semi silence in which to prove he is lying/mistaken is foolishness on our parts.

(b) Other people in the background and men moving around.

Yes and No. lol. I can not hear men moving around in the background but there are various places through most of the first half of the tape where there are voices in the background. Some I have written in. Others I have not because it is a noise rather than an intelligible word. But it is a verbal noise. I know some will say for the sake of exactness we must include it. I understand that and agree. But if you cannot make out the word, how does it help. By proving other men were there. Yes but thats all it proves. So here is a few exmaples of where you can hear said others. On the main site here you can download the really good quality version. It says right click and save as, but it actually says Save target as. Choose yes and you will be asked where you want it stored. Do that and then get something like audacity or better. And then at these locations on the tape, but there are many others, here are the places you can hear background voices (remember you have to tune out the foreground.

7 mins 2 seconds - 7 minutes 3.3 seconds
10 mins 40 seconds to roughly 11 mins 40 secs - lots of examples in this minute.

Also:

There is a Ding like a hammer hitting a nail at 11 mins 01 secs and 55 hundredths.
An electrical screech at 12 mins 05 secs 20 hundredths

There are many more boings cloncks and dinks and muffled noises to be heard but I thought they may detract from the transcript which I did out of my own curiosity. Though maybe I should listen at all of these noises and maybe there will be something else helpful in there.

(c)[b] The car tyres screech[/b]

This can be heard at 6.27 - 6.28. I heard it the very first time I listened to the tape. I left it out however and intended to come back to it. The reason it was left out was that I could not ensure that the squeal was car breaks. Also I was not sure a car could get to them where they were. I knew they had said at the beginning that they should go on foot. So how did that car get there. I realise now that it was because sound travels further and faster in the cold air. So I will edit the transcript to reflect that. Also to produce a break squeal like that you would have to be travelling faster than they could in the confines of the trees. The squeal implies that they had only used the breaks a couple of times and had not dried them off by usage or that they had recently driven through a puddle. The matter of access was resolved when you could clearly hear another vehicle arriving later using its horn. The horn is used to say hello I am here. You draw attention to yourself by using it. This implies that they (the car horn users) were saying hello to the people driving the other car (break squealers). It also implies that they knew who was there. In a military environment of any sort, you do not roar up and blare your horn if you suspect a Ranking officer is present as it would be classed as skylarking. In the same way, you would not light a cigarette unless he clears it first. So either, whoever arrived in the second vehicle, was of rank or the driver was of the same ish rank as those already there (the squealing break vehicle occupants), or he knew them. I mean there is a lot the tape can teach in the same way as explained. I mean shortly after the break squeal we hear the radio com "to allow Aitkin, Burroughs a ride in on a jeep at your location". Is this the time that John arrives at the scene. Who is Aitkin/Aikin. I mean I have roughed out an analysis but I wanted to get the locations as exact as possible before I posted it. And I wanted to get a few other things together.

As for the noise of the woman calling/screaming - some sites have the noise as muntjack deer. Its possible, it is a woodland after all. They are common. But the sound described is more familiar to me as a fox calling. They make a noise that sounds like the re in RETCH. But if you draw the air hard back through your vocal chords instead of saying re re, you suck re re and draw it out. Sounds like little dogs bark. Then it has a squeal on the end of it.

LOL your all trying it arnt you lol. I hope that helps Puddlepirate.

Edit - thank god I found a copy else you would all think I was mad lol - click here to hear a fox screaming. They use it when under threat or trying to scare off a threat, like another fox.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVLvw-LhWyQ

And for the sceptics out there who say that I and the U Tuber are mistaken - if you have as many years night fishing as I have believe me, you make the effort to find out what the hell makes a noise like this because it is terrifying if you have not heard it before. Here are some foxes in a back garden being filmed making the noise.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5muPmmT ... re=related

[Daniel]

Thanks for posting the fox scream Storm, was wondering what that noise was. I spent some time listening to the halt tape over the weekend. I removed the audio from the recording that was based on the profile of the audio (background hum) before the tape starts. It also sounds like there are pulsating sinewaves when some of the radiation readings were being called out.

Sadly this tape doesn't give us every single sound as it was converted to lossy MP3. I can hear the noise close to that of rustling trees and nearer to the end foot steps on mulch or frost. Also I'm not sure but it looks/sounds like there may be two tape recorders stopping and starting (play audio in audacity with the sound profile zoomed in 8 times). I don't have much time in the week to look into all this, so I'll have to wait til the weekend once again.

[puddlepirate]

Brilliant.. many thanks, Storm.

I'll quote you - not because I want to trip you up or anything, far from it but just to make sure I haven't misunderstood....

a. animal noises not heard on the tape:

I cannot hear any animals

- so that is a NO

b. Sounds of Halt's men and/or others moving around:

Yes and No. lol. I can not hear men moving around in the background

- voices could be heard but no actual movement through trees, undergrowth, brambles, stepping on twigs etc so I'll take this as a NO

c. Brakes / tyres squealing

This can be heard at 6.27 - 6.28

- a very positive YES

Additionally:

There is a Ding like a hammer hitting a nail at 11 mins 01 secs and 55 hundredths.
An electrical screech at 12 mins 05 secs 20 hundredths

Interesting additional info.

Thanks again. Most useful. I've got a copy of the tape but it was taken from a BBC radio transmission broadcast several years ago so the quality is not all that good.

[Storm]

Your welcome and to clarify for the sake of accuracy

"I" could not hear any animals in the two or so seconds that we may be able to hear them.

Car breaks sound when stated

Men can be heard in the background though not clear enough to translate. And to help clarify another point the sounds of footfalls and twigs snapping would I am sure be very hard
to detect in damp, soft pine needle laden floor. In fact if the similar woodland near me is anything to go by almost impossible as there is also a thick layer of moss on everything as well due to poor light penetration. I hope that helps Puddlepirate clarify what I meant whilst also preverving the context in which it was said completly.

If there is anything else I can do to help Pm me by all means.

[AdrianF]

Further study of this recording is a bit pointless, when the original contains so much more information. This is the comparison that Silvertop posted some time ago. I wonder if the animals can be heard on the original, I suspect they can.



As to whether the tape is genuine. I would guess from this small clip and the bad copy that is online, that it was at least made in a pine forest. Pine forests have a unique audio signature, especially Rendlesham, being close to the sea, yet on relatively high ground. The wind, even on calm days, is constantly blowing the tree tops. This makes for a unique background noise and combined with the reflective nature of the trees, gives distant and close sound sources, a unique ambiance. In other words, if a good copy of the original was available, it would be easier to confirm that the recording was probably made in a pine forest.

[Storm]

Sterling work storm. I'm sure I have heard Halt talk about the screeching breaks noise on the tape before. As I remember it, his conclusion was that is was a Motorola radio switching frequency and the screech is the 'Squelch' kicking in:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squelch

Cheers,

Silvertop

An exact example of why I was reluctant to conclude it was car breaks. Because I could not be sure. Cheers for that Silvertop. The squelch on the radio is often played with. I have kept post many times over the years. If you are expecting communications to be heard but you want to get rid of the screeching sounds it makes you turn down up the squelch. The squelch then only allows those signals strong enough through. However you become worried that your squelch may be set too high and you lose confidence in your coms. So you turn the squelch down, now and again to check to make sure your not missing transmissions. So it could as well be the squelch being played with. Who knows. The only thing that can be helpful is if the context would be right. For instance if on the tape I heard a train sound, but the nearest station was 100 miles away, the context of the situation rules out a train. The breaks theory is in context as is the radio squelch. For me I suppose that is where is stands, but I ,lean toward breaks myself.

Written by AdrianF - Further study of this recording is a bit pointless . .

I could not agree less. Unless you have the examples full version, I think you have to work with what you have got. Certain things found therein may jog a memory or two. May prompt someone to come forward - Aitkin/Aitken for instance whoever they are. And if that is the original version I will happily carry on ruining my eardrums transcribing it.

[Storm]

In fact there is this:

Something did not sit right with the video example. It sounded wrong. So I took the section out. You as far as I am aware cannot download U tube soundtracks so I recorded it on my phone.

Then I got the original from this site.

Then I aligned them and they dont align.

In fact worse than that they do align in a certain point, then run faster than each other and also the order of whats said changes. What the hell that means I have no idea other than its been chopped in our copy or chopped in theirs. Rerecorded. The voices sound the wrong pitch too. Is it possible the vid is a fake?

Anyhow apologies for the dreadfull soundlevel but you can see the peaks are different and they align differently.

Here is the link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=869AWv-xY-Q

[Storm]

Hi Storm,

The clean audio was taken from a Youtube clip of the strange but true documentary. I think the FLV file that Youtube uses time stretches the audio sometimes. When I changed the pitch of the clean version to match the pitch of the scratchy tape version we're all familiar with they were different lengths so I may have time stretched the final audio to match it.

Best to start from the beginning and download the Youtube SBT doc - or beg Col. Halt to send you a 1st gen copy.

St.

Oh yeah I assumed as much with the time thing but what they say after it aligns is in a totally different order. On the version on this site Halt starts "we found a small blast" but on the u tube one they talk about something else. Which comes in later on our version. That's why I overlaid them because the audio did not sound right from memory. As for begging halt for a first gen copy I would if I knew how to find halt. Unless he is a member on here. I am sure he would oblige. To be honest it's in his interests. The more we know the more leverage he has for future exploration of events.

[Storm]

Brilliant.. many thanks, Storm.

I'll quote you - not because I want to trip you up or anything, far from it but just to make sure I haven't misunderstood....

a. animal noises not heard on the tape:

I cannot hear any animals

- so that is a NO

b. Sounds of Halt's men and/or others moving around:

Yes and No. lol. I can not hear men moving around in the background

- voices could be heard but no actual movement through trees, undergrowth, brambles, stepping on twigs etc so I'll take this as a NO

c. Brakes / tyres squealing

This can be heard at 6.27 - 6.28

- a very positive YES

Additionally:

There is a Ding like a hammer hitting a nail at 11 mins 01 secs and 55 hundredths.
An electrical screech at 12 mins 05 secs 20 hundredths

Interesting additional info.

Thanks again. Most useful. I've got a copy of the tape but it was taken from a BBC radio transmission broadcast several years ago so the quality is not all that good.

Apologies in advance. Their is an animal sound. Very clear. Just before the stomach grumble noise. I will have to go through the tape again as I suspected I might. Just before you get the stomach noise, there is, very clearly a dog barking. Its a long way off but its there. OMG lol never heard that before. Sigh - keep hearing more and more, the more I listen to it. Ah well back to it - transcript edited to incorporate this also.