The clue's on the words

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Re: The clue's on the words

Postby Observer » Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:58 pm

Thanks for that Robert.
There is a chance then that although the NW stored at BW could have been part of that '1000' war heads withdrawn from Europe under the agreement, they were left there with out British knowledge as a fail safe by the US Government? Was this what all the hush up is about? Or, as you said in your introduction, other non lethal but exotic weapons were developed as a counter to the lack of NW in Europe.
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Re: The clue's on the words

Postby robert » Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:28 pm

So if it wasn't a disagreement over Nuclear missiles maybe it was an experimantal weapon that went a bit wayward and encroached on British soil and the Brits had there noses put out of joint?

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Re: The clue's on the words

Postby Observer » Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:27 pm

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I think you are near with the wayward missile/weapon scenario, but it was more about the Brits not knowing and being kept out of the picture, although i think Maggie knew!!
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Re: The clue's on the words

Postby Wolf » Fri Jul 25, 2008 9:17 pm

Observer wrote:In a nut shell the aircraft projects a beam in front of it that alters the molecular structure of the air atoms that it is about to fly through. This in tern reduces the amount of air/suface friction which in turn reduces drag and the airframe temperature and allows for hypersonic flight.
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The Russains already utilise this technology on the Shkval torpedo.

The 6,000-pound Shkval rocket torpedo has a range of about 7,500 yards and can fly through the water at more than 230 miles an hour. The solid-rocket-propelled "torpedo" achieves this high speed by producing a high-pressure stream of bubbles from its nose and skin, which coats the weapon in a thin layer of gas. The Shkval flies underwater inside a giant "envelope" of gas bubbles in a process called "supercavitation.

There are no evident countermeasures to the Shkval and, according to weapons experts, its deployment by Russian and Chinese naval forces has placed the U.S. Navy at a considerable disadvantage.

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Re: The clue's on the words

Postby robert » Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:57 am

Hi Wolf,

Have you got any source on the Russian Torpedo or is it on the net.
Any idea of year of testing etc.

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Re: The clue's on the words

Postby robert » Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:15 am

Observer wrote:Just as a point of interest and there may be a connection. Both Russia and the US have been working on the plasma 'wave' [probably the wrong words] technology for hypersonic flight.
In a nut shell the aircraft projects a beam in front of it that alters the molecular structure of the air atoms that it is about to fly through. This in tern reduces the amount of air/suface friction which in turn reduces drag and the airframe temperature and allows for hypersonic flight. Apparently Russia is ahead on this research and has had working models for decades. There are some web sites on this subject.
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Obs. Any idea what source this was from or was it something you read?

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Re: The clue's on the words

Postby Observer » Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:28 am

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I saw these articles on the Web and cannot find them again. use google, Russian hypersonic spy planes. From what i remember they had developed a system where the aircraft projects a beam of some sort in front of it and this then reduces the air friction over the wings etc thus allowing the plane to travel at much higher speeds. Nothing to do with under water torpedos although this technology may apply there in a different format.
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