What knocked over a tree?

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Re: What knocked over a tree?

Postby puddlepirate » Sun Nov 23, 2008 10:06 pm

Further to my last post...

The only time the word 'down' is used in connection with the trees is this:
HALT: ...side facing the...interesting. The indentations look like something twisted as it sat down on them. Looks like someone took something and sat it down and twisted it from side to side. Very strange.


The tape then goes on:

HALT: Looking directly overhead one can see an opening in the trees, plus some freshly broken pine branches on the ground underneath. Looks like some of ‘em came off about 15 to 20 feet up. Some small branches about an inch or less in diameter.


So where has the 'tree(s) knocked down' claim come from?
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Re: What knocked over a tree?

Postby bnj » Sun Nov 23, 2008 10:14 pm

Response to puddlepirate's Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:43 pm posting:


HALT: Now it’s dying. I think it’s something other than the ground. I think it’s something that’s...something very...

VOICE: [indistinct]...tree right over...
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Re: What knocked over a tree?

Postby puddlepirate » Sun Nov 23, 2008 10:15 pm

Before anyone refers me to previous posts, this is what Ian R's transcript says:

VOICE: Now it’s stopped... Now it’s coming up... Hold on. There we go... about approximately four foot off the ground, at a compass heading of 110 degrees.

HALT: He’s turned the meter off. Gotta say that again. About four feet off the ground, about 110 degrees, getting a reading of about four clicks?

VOICE: Yes, sir. (Sneezes). Now it’s dying.

HALT: Now it’s dying. I think it’s something other than the ground. I think it’s something that’s...something very...

VOICE: [indistinct]...tree right over...

HALT: We’ve just bumped into the first night bird we’ve seen. We’re about 150 or 200 yards from the site. Everywhere else is just deathly calm.


Nothing about a tree being knocked over....
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Re: What knocked over a tree?

Postby bnj » Sat Dec 06, 2008 7:26 pm

Another good loop!

Listening to this loop, I cannot make out what is said just before "a tree right over". It certainly does not sound like "knocked"! It sounds more like "bubba".
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Re: What knocked over a tree?

Postby AdrianF » Sun Dec 07, 2008 7:09 pm

Bubba?! Really. Maybe the tape was made on Walton's Mountain.

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Re: What knocked over a tree?

Postby bnj » Wed Dec 10, 2008 6:37 pm

I repeatedly played the entire segment from which the loop is taken. My rendition of what I hear is
Halt saying:

I think it's something other than the ground - I think it's something that's - something variable

followed immediately by Nevels saying:

the tree right over.

What is looped is the last word of what Halt says followed by what Nevels says:

variable a tree right over

I don't hear the word "knocked".
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