Third (27/28) night reconstructed with John’s statements

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Third (27/28) night reconstructed with John’s statements

Postby Frank » Sat Dec 04, 2010 5:03 pm

Like I did with the first night, I collected John’s statements made on this forum over the years and put them together in order to reconstruct his view on the events of the third night. Enjoy .. (and note that John has been very consistent !)

Arrival and situation at arrival

”I went up to the base on Sat mourning the desk Sgt Obrain told me they had a incident he told me the Shift commander went out into the woods and was so upset she had to be relieved of duty and sent home. That is why I went back on Sat night.”

”Sgt Obrian was the Desk Sgt and was typing up the report and the blooter entry on the incident. she did not see dead bodies but was freaked out by the beams of light that lit up her vehicle and the blue lights that and i quate the report that passed threw her vehicle and caused her vehicle to shut down. They also lost radio contact with her for over 10 min.... ”

”I believe after the 2 incidents that is why Halt was contacted. I don’t believe he was the first one contacted it would have been our commander Zigler who was at the Party. Halt has stated the shift commander showed up at the party and it was decided he would go out and put it to rest.”

”Second night I got out there at about 1030 or so and came in around 4. There were never any British out there during the event that I saw... ”

”I don’t believe there were ever 30-40 people in the forest. There were over 40 people on duty and were listening to the radio traffic. ”

”Also on halts night the 3rd night again nothing had crashed i.e. no fire personnel. ”

”I was held up for awhile but was allowed out in the area and that is where I met up with Halts party. ”

”I went in the same way both times! I was at the light-alls that they set up and it looks like they were in the same area we were in the first night. I had a short walk from the light-alls to meet up with halt on the 3rd night. ”

”On the third night is when the light-alls were taken out there not sure when they took them out there. The reason why you never heard them was they would not work and we had trouble with our radios on all 3 nights. Bustinza could have brought out the light-alls and then stayed with Halts party once it formed up. They could have even put the light-alls out just in case something happened again I’m sure they were starting to wonder what was going on after 2 nights in a row and the fact the shift commander was so shook up from the second night. ”

”When I got out there on Sat night there was light-alls in a clearing and Halt team was past where we first had our encounter. I know Halt knew where our site was because he went to the site that Friday morning. I also know they were looking at a site on the tape before his encounter with the beams of light beaming at his feet and the lights braking into pieces by the farmers house which is if I remember right is where he stated his site was. ”

”I believe we only had one starlight scope out there and yes bright light would effect it. You have to be in a area with little or no light to use it. As far as what effect the light they were looking at a distance would have I don't know. I do know that we controlled the scopes and LT England was there and prior to the AF I believe he was in the Marines so he would have had a lot of training in using it and would understand the effects the best. Also I did not get to look threw it that night..... ”

”Halt was the highest ranking when I got out there. England was the highest SP Ziegler never came out on anything. Druery OPS officer was not out there when I was there. Armold was a Airmen like me and did not meet up with Halts party he stayed with the light-alls that’s as far as he got. Bustinza was with Halts party and went with me when I ran towards it. MSgt Gulius also might have been out there. ”


Something had landed when John arrived

”Halt saw something land which is why there are 2 sites. Remember Bustinza was not out there with me on the first night but was with Halt and me on the third night. I was told by Halt when I met up with them that something landed the third night and by Bustinza also. ”

”As far as Halt goes I stated that is what he told me when we met up on the third night. He never said what landed just something landed he then pointed up in the sky and showed me the blue lights that were flying around. As we watched them that’s when we saw one of them beam lights inside the storage area and the radio traffic went nuts. After that something then appeared in the distance which is what Bustinza and I went after. ”

”I believe Warren landing site is what Halt told me he saw land when I met up with him on the third night. I believe that encounter took place when the beams of light came down at his feet he also talked about a object that broke into three objects by the farmers house. When I met up with his party everybody was visibly shaken up and stated they just had a unexplainable experience Bustinza was with them. ”


The blue lights and the beams

”All most everybody involved talks about seeing strange lights flying around in the sky and several people saw the beams coming down to the ground. ”

”As far as how high up not sure. Yes I remember the different color lights. There was a blue light over Bentwaters and one out over the coast. But the one I saw first was the one that shot down at us which is the one I think put a beams of light at Halts feet. There was radio traffic that something was coming at us then it shot down at us in the clearing past us and the light-alls making them go on and off and through a pickup truck window and back up into the sky. So when I said there were 2 there may have been 3. ”

”The lights [beams of light] were coming off the blue lights in the sky. There was at least 2 that I know of. They did go on and off. Not sure it may or may not have changed angles! ”

”These objects flew at us beamed lights at us lit up a large area and moved up into the sky. ”

”Also in the CNN Piece MSgt Ball stated he believed he saw something inside the blue lights that could be some kind of life form... ”

”MSgt ball was the one who first said it looked like a grid search but unless we had some kind of blue transparent helicopter it was not a helo. ”

”Bustinza witnessed the lights that were beaming down at Halts feet and Ball mention in the CNN piece he saw something in the blue lights that could have been well and Halt has stated the lights appeared to be under some kind of control. ”

”If all I saw was something on the ground ok. But how did it fly off at a high rate of speed what were the blue lights flying around and beaming lights to the ground. How did they move it while we were there. ”

”Having one fly right over the top of me was a eye opening experience and seeing beams of light going down to the ground also. Plus what I got close to twice.”

”The lights were moving around in the sky! They were beaming lights down to the ground. One of the lights flew past us went through a truck and shot back up into the sky! I have spoken to the tower operator and there is no way it was stars it was a ball of energy that was hanging over the forest. As far as the WSA goes it was the blue lights that were flying around not hovering that shot the blue lights down to the ground! ”

”Early on several people talked about a energy source that was flying around which was called blue lights! MSgt ball went as far as saying there could have been something inside the blue light that could have been some kind of life form. Several people told Robert Hasting that there was a large object hovering over the woods. And that a blue light buzzed the WSA tower. ”

”As far as the WSA goes I was with Halt and we could see the beams of light going down into the area and we could and this is where the tape comes in could hear everything going on inside the area as it was happening. We could not see the area but we could see the lights going done in the area it was and could hear what was going on. ”


John’s close encounter, together with Bustinza

”Bustinza was with Halts party when I met up with them and he and I then went towards whatever it was!!! The light-alls were in a clearing. ”

”We both could see it and it was white yellow red and blue. ”

”On the night I was with Adrian whatever it was came over me the white oranges light and then exploded with several blue light coming out of it! This came from Adrian who was behind me laying on the ground watching this happen! ”

”Bustinza told me that as we were running towards the object and I say object for no better word he fell down which I remember well he stated he did not fall but was pushed and then was held down. After that he stated whatever it was completely covered me up in other words it went over me and I disappeared. Well I can remember getting close to it and then all of a sudden I was standing in the field not knowing what had happened. ”

”Bustinza and I were running together and he fell down and I kept running. As I was getting close to it all of a sudden it was gone and I was just standing in the field. I don’t know what happened. Bustinza told me he was knocked down and held down afterwards he stated he could not stand up until after whatever it was was gone and I was standing alone in the field. Halts party was behind us several hundred yards. Halt was the one who stated down the line that I was on top of something Bustinza said that I disappeared into it. I have no idea what happened. ”

”And the night Halt was out there and I was out in the open field getting close to whatever it was there was some missing time. I.e. I got very close to something and then it was gone and I have no idea what happened in between”


The C5 and lots of activity in the woods the next days

”Everthing was handled differently from Sunday night on when the C-5 came in and that is when the road blocks and everything else went on in the forest”

”They [the C5 crew] ran their own show and from what I was told they had their own equipment and vehicles.... ”

”All I can say about the C-5 is that I saw it come in i.e. land and it was not a normal arrival. From where I was I could not see anything different i.e. NSA or CIA I was not close enough to see what base or tail number was on the aircraft and it went directly to the hot row area escorted by one of our vehicles. ”

”I saw it land and it was not a exchange plane to include the way it was secured. I was also posted on the east gate while the people from the plane were out in the forest. Also it was stated that what was stored in the area was effected. ”

”Came in the 28th at around 6:00pm. Activity was on 29 and 30. I was posted on gate 29-31. Gate was open late on 29and 30th I was posted 1500-2300. On 31st 1500- 1800. ”

”It came in on Sunday night right after Sat night. On Monday night Tues night and Wed night I was posted on the East gate from 3-11. Gate was usually closed at 6 but left was opened because there was all kinds of activity going on in the woods. ”

”I was posted there because I was involved in the past incidents. I was ordered not to call anything in on the radio just to use the phone. I also was ordered not to talk about anything I saw going on. ”

”It was one C-5 and yes they did have people go out in the Forrest for several days”

”As far as the C-5 goes Bentwaters had a secure area that Woodbridge did not. I did not say it took anything out or what it was there for. It was not a normal arrival or the way they secured it. Also Halt stated he was not allowed access which would not be normal. ”

”No one knows what was on the C-5 it was parked in a secure area and had its own security. Also there was allot of activity in the woods after that for several days. The back gate was left open all night. How do I know this because I was posted on it M-W they put me on it because I was involved in the incident. My instruction were not to call anything in on the radio if anything happened just use the phone. There was allot of helicopters flying out over the area and they had some vehicles that were going into the woods. Rumour and I say rumour because I was not told this by anyone in charge that it was the people from the C-5 to include the helicopters that were in the air. Also rumour had it that they also did some work inside the weapons storage area. Nothing and I repeat nothing that I heard or was told about was taken out of the woods. I cannot to this day say who were in the vehicles that came in and out of the gate it’s classified and again I do not know if they came from that plane. Also I still to this day cannot comment on what I saw going on over those 3 days again classified. ”

”I was posted there because I was involved in the incident before and the only thing I was told I could not talk about was who I saw and what I saw. I would never have talked about it until Halt talked about it. ”

”There are things that happened that cannot be talked about to this day because of what was stored there and what happened. ”

”Was told when I was posted on the gate not to talk about anything to do with who was involved that was not from the base. IE Vehicles, personal or aircraft or anything strange that happened in the sky. Halt opened up the can of worms that it happened and a crew was there so I feel I can talk about that plus he brought up the codes so again I feel no problem in talking about that but that is as far as I will go. ”

”But what I will say is Halt talked about the C-5 for the first time when we were filming strange but true. He also stated that a team came in to check on codes in hot row. As far as the gate goes there were helicopters all over the place and they were flying around with search lights over the forest there were also vehicles going into the woods that I can say. ”

”Halt said one of the things they came in to check was the codes in hot row.... That was what he stated and I can say no more on that. There was also statements made about a special team that came in on it with equipment. They parked the C-5 back in a area where it was impossible to see what they were doing and they took care of their own security. I can also say there was allot of Helicopters flying around the forest and vehicles going into the woods. ”

”Also about the codes everybody talks about the only thing I know is Halt said the beams effected the codes on the munitions... ”
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Re: Third (27/28) night reconstructed with John’s statements

Postby larry warren » Sun Dec 05, 2010 4:10 am

W R O N G !! have a nice fucckin DAY !
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Re: Third (27/28) night reconstructed with John’s statements

Postby Frank » Sun Dec 05, 2010 8:59 pm

Relax, Larry. These are John’s posts. We all know your story is different:
http://books.google.nl/books?id=6uy1SbHwnwcC&lpg=PP1&hl=en&pg=PA41#v=onepage&q&f=false
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