RADAR Development

[John Burroughs]

OB I forgot to answer your question about where the effect started. When Steffens and I went down the east gate road and we stoped and I got out of the car. It did seem like the closer we got the bigger the effect was. As far as what happened here are some questions what could have caused the bright lights we saw from the gate and as we got into the forrest. As we got close to the object what would have caused the blinding light and Penniston object. What would have caused the blue lights in the sky besides stars and the beames of lights shooting down to the ground.

[Observer]

John
Can you remember if the beams of light that shone down to the ground were coming off the blue lights in the sky? Were all the blue lights in the sky shining beams down or just one?
Were they being switched on and off like a light switch? Lastly, each time a beam shone down to the ground was it at a different angle to the last time?
Sorry about all the questions but it would be good if you can remember.
Obs

[John Burroughs]

The lights were comming off the blue lights in the sky. There was at least 2 that I know of. They did go on and off. Not sure it may or may not have changed angles!

[Observer]

John
Thats great, did the blue lights in the sky stay stationary while beaming down or did they move about?
What height would you estimate the blue lights were at, hundreds of feet or thousands of feet?
Given that you may have an estimated height, what size would you guess the lights to be? Football size or much bigger?
Thanks
Obs

[Robert McLean]

The lights were comming off the blue lights in the sky. There was at least 2 that I know of. They did go on and off. Not sure it may or may not have changed angles!

John,

Were the two blue lights in the sky quite close together?

Your and Penniston's witness statements both agree that there was a blue light was below a red light. Do you remember this blue light as well as the blue lights in the sky?

[Robert McLean]

John
Thats great, did the blue lights in the sky stay stationary while beaming down or did they move about?
What height would you estimate the blue lights were at, hundreds of feet or thousands of feet?
Given that you may have an estimated height, what size would you guess the lights to be? Football size or much bigger?
Thanks
Obs

At night it can be very difficult to judge how far away a light is unless there is the ground or some other visible object near the light source that gives the light some context. Your eyes can't tell the distance from focussing once a light is more than about 30 feet away, so unless you can recognize what it is you are looking at, you really have little idea how big it is, or how far away it is.

[Observer]

RM
I know its a tall order to ask that question and agree that it would be pretty difficult, but i was just after a guess from John rather than accuracy.
Obs

[John Burroughs]

As far as how high up not sure. Yes I remember the different color lights. There was a blue light over Bentwaters and one out over the coast. But the one I saw first was the one that shot down at us which is the one I think put a beame of light at Halts feet. There was radio traffic that somthing was comming at us then it shot down at us in the clearing past us and the lightallls making them go on and off and through a pickup truck window and back up into the sky. So when I said there were 2 there may have been 3.

[Observer]

Thanks John,
When the beams came down did they light up the ground like a search light would do?
Obs

[John Burroughs]

From where I was I could not see the ground IE Bentwaters storage area. Halt described what it looked like...

[pupil88]

Hi JB,

You saw lights coming down from lights - not objects. Were all the lights coming down like the pencil thin blue light that hit the ground before Halt and his team? Were any of the beams coming down much wider in width?

[Robert McLean]

From where I was I could not see the ground IE Bentwaters storage area. Halt described what it looked like...

Yes, there was/is quite a large forest in the way. Halt was even farther away, probably on or near Burrow Hill, and so it is puzzling why he said on the tape that there was something near Woodbridge base beaming down. It is unlikely he could have seen this from where he was. So it must have been something he heard on the radio.

John, do you know if such sightings described over the radio networks?

[John Burroughs]

Yes that is why the tape of our radio transmission is so important...

[Robert McLean]

Yes that is why the tape of our radio transmission is so important...

Well, Halt has hinted that he has several of these tapes, presumably of the different radio networks that were in use. If this is true, I can't think why he hasn't released them if they support his recollection of events. Perhaps one day these tapes and the rumoured book he is working on will be published.

But then, audio tapes of radio transmissions were supposedly the "tapes" that were flown off to Germany, so who knows what the truth is here.

[John Burroughs]

Halt kept a copy...

[Robert McLean]

I can't think why he hasn't released them.......

If he was found to have taken a copy of the tapes illegally, he would loose his pension and VA insurance.

St.

The reality is that no one in authority would take any notice if he produced these tapes now, at least from a disciplinary point of view. How much would it cost the UD DoD or VA to pursue such a matter? It would involve lots of lawyers and hearings, cost a lot of money, and create very negative publicity. They can't take such entitlements away from individuals with the flick of a bureaucratic pen - there has to be a process.

It's not as if tapes have or had any significant monetary value in themselves -just a few dollars. In the normal course of events the tapes would have worn out and been discarded long ago. These tapes were not destined for the national archives - they were only ever temporary records.

The only thing Halt could ever have got in trouble for was trespassing on several farmer's fields, and apparently no-one was worried about that either.

[Observer]

One of the main reasons why the tapes were secured and sent to USAF HQ Germany was because they they might reveal in the radio traffic recordings what was in the forest and they could not take the risk of that getting out into the public domain.
Obs

[puddlepirate]

That is one thing that I have always found a bit strange...a squad of USAF personnel walk over 2 miles out then 2 miles back in the middle of the night, across a farmer's fields - with at least one of them falling into a stream (if nothing else that guy must have been wet and very cold, yet no mention is made of that). Whilst Lt Col Halt and his merry band are on walkabout, there are many more personnel in the forest with vehicles, floodlights and gawd knows what else, yet nobody at the farm or in any of the nearby houses (albeit few) notices a thing. Now, how odd is that?

[Observer]

If as Halt and others said the farmers animals were playing up which means that Halt heard them, he the farmer and /or his family would be out there, probably with his shotgun to see what was causing all the commotion and he would then have seen/heard all the activity in and around his fields by US airmen not to mention the glowing lights of an alien craft sat in his field! Halt must also have been near enough to the farm house to recognise that it was those animals belonging to that farm house that were playing up.
No appearance by the farmer, very odd.
Obs

[puddlepirate]

...and that is possibly the strangest thing of all. Farm animals making a noise and an alien craft sat in the corner of the field, in clear view of the farmhouse and not more than a couple of hundred yards from it, surrounded by USAF personnel yet nobody - not a single soul - in the farmhouse takes even a peep out of the curtains. Farms with animals are not usually left completely unattended so somebody must have been home. Plus, as Obs suggested, farmers in our more remote rural areas have a habit of firing shotguns at those who trespass over their property in the dead of night, particularly when their animals have been disturbed.

Anyone got any ideas as to why nobody showed any interest in what was going on?