Any other sightings/evidence

[redsocks]

Hi All,

We are as we all know going round in circles here and I would like to start a new thread here asking is there any other evidence of UFO's over Rendlesham since the first incident?.Does anybody know of witnesses to unusual lights/activity etc or is there indeed any photographic evidence of anything unusual happenening since the original sighting, I know for a fact that one airwoman claims to have seen the same as Penniston halt etc in Feb 80.Maybe as a group we can take a look and see what we think and put them into the catogories of BS or possible.Just a last look at the UFO theories on my behalf.

Redsocks

[redsocks]

Was just looking at http://www.ufo-uk.org that discusses the Rendlesham incident and read that strange lights have been reported over the area as far back as 1940!! this does bloody confuse things !!

Redsocks

[Observer]

Makes you wonder if the Ness is the culprit in all these sightings or its some sort of phenomena caused by the local Bawdsey experimental radar station. Both have been military sites from those times.

Worth checking to see if any funny lights etc were seen before Bawdsey started up.

It gets better doesn't it?

Observer

[redsocks]

Its all about "funny lights" isnt it,different coloured lights seen as far back as 1940 and even after the main Rendlesham incident which of course is way after Bawdsey.But why are people seeing lights in this area? and of these people how come there is no evidence,nothing on film,surely in all that time with so many sightings some locals must have a story to tell,we could even compere their sightings with what JB saw.I think it really would be worth talking with some local people in the area to see if any locals have seen "lights",maybe the Butley oyster would be a good port of call.....like has been said before we may be totally looking in the wrong direction, the reason may be more simple than we think.

Redsocks

[Observer]

redsocks

Your last few words in your post is exactly what i was told a long time ago.
It was 'simple' but if i told you you wouldn't believe me. Those were the words said to me 20 years ago.
So think out side the box for a simple explanation, and i don't mean a hoax.

Observer

[redsocks]

redsocks

Your last few words in your post is exactly what i was told a long time ago.
It was 'simple' but if i told you you wouldn't believe me. Those were the words said to me 20 years ago.
So think out side the box for a simple explanation, and i don't mean a hoax.

Observer

Yeah thats it Observer,and I'm not saying the Rendlesham incident is a hoax either.All the airmen keep talking about is different coloured lights we must keep that in mind.Like I say Lets try and get some proof/evidence of lights from people who have seen them,I think that would go a long way here,maybe this is an issue that not just the airmen have been privvie to.

Redsocks

[puddlepirate]

JB...sincerest and unreserved apologies if you thought I was calling you a liar because I was not. To suggst that was most certainly not my intention.

Could you clarify something. Penniston says in his statement that he saw a craft in the forest and that it was 3m wide by 3m high and that he walked round it. He also says that at the time he did this you were ten feet away - yet you only saw lights. How is that?

This is not an accusation or anything like that. It is just an attempt to make sense of what appears to be some confusion.

To help with this, the following might be of assistance:

An interview with Penniston: http://www.hyper.net/ufo/vs/m18-020.html

Info from Ian Ridpaths' site:
http://www.ianridpath.com/ufo/rendlesham2c.htm

[John Burroughs]

Jim wrtten statement does not say that. We came upon what ever it was and only were close to it briefly. Jim did say he felt it was some kind of object. His statement also stated how close we got to it. His story has changed and I am not sure why. He has told me since he went under Hypnosis his memory of the event has changed. Thanks for the apologie s the key to this whole mess lies underground and at the ness. I am sorry but I dont feel anything crashed. What ever we came upon departed as we got close to it and the second time was always airborne. There was a interesting post about a undergound complex being bulit starting around 1976. Would not be hard to follow up on. And one more note to the wise to attack a witness statement because 2 things happen one they will stop talking and 2 other people wil not be willing to talk. Take a statement for what it is try to use what you can you never know where it might lead. I found on the net 4 people who staed they saw somthing Wayne Burgess ,Gary Harris ,Roy and Marina Webb and Gary Collins. I am sure there are more!!!

[puddlepirate]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rendlesham_Forest_Incident

I am sure we would all very much appreciate clarification from the only forum member who was there. It is very difficult, if not impossible, to make any sense of what happened when relying on such contradictory statements as those referred to in the link shown above. However, I am sure that not only do we want to resolve this mystery but in so doing help JB to understand what he saw. Therefore, I withdraw my version of the hoax theory.

Perhaps to start us off, JB would be kind enough to confirm exactly what he saw after leaving east gate and provide an explanation for the confusion referred to in my previous post.

[puddlepirate]

JB.. I didn't see your reply before I made my second post. That said, there does seem to be a bit of confusion so if you wouldn't mind could you just walk us through what you saw after leaving east gate. If we can start from a very clear and unambiguous datum the forum can move forward and not only attempt to resolve the mystery but help you understand what you saw.

Obviously I cannot speak for anyone but myself but I believe the members of this forum to be sensible people with a common objective - to find out what happened in Rendlesham forest in Dec 1980. Nobody wants a witch-hunt nor does anybody want to accuse anybody else of being a liar but we have been floundering around in the dark for some time so to able to start afresh, knowing where we are coming from would be very useful indeed. I sincerely believe there is a substantial amount of expertise available via this forum which could be put to very good use.

[John Burroughs]

Silvertop as I stated before I will not talk about my hypnosis. It will only confuse the incident more than it allready is. As far as what happened the statement I wrote described what happened. The drawing is the best I could do for the shape the lights took.

[Deep Purple]

It is important to remember that witnesses may have difficulty explaining what they have seen particularly after 28 years.
Due respect should be given to witnesses such as JB. Try and avoid a QC style interogation with closed questions, but rather open up a dialogue.
If JB knew what he saw he would tell us, its rather for us to gently ask questions to try and work out what happened

[Observer]

This is interesting as it happened over the same week as the Rendlesham incident. What's more interesting is the fact that our reporter from Bealings said there was some noise attached to their movements.

No body mentioned 'noise' at the Rendlesham incident.

Obs

[redsocks]

This is interesting as the light colour description is very similar to what the airmen witnessed.Ive heard of other light stories from the area and again urge people to come forward if they witnessed anything.

Redsocks

[Observer]

Just looking at this from a side ways point of view for a moment.

We have a multi coloured light display in Rendlesham Forest, we have a similar light display over Bealings within a week of Rendlesham and not that far away and there have allegedly been other light sightings in the area.
Are we not dealing with a couple of local amateur 'boffins' out playing pranks?

Obs

[Observer]

Yeah, it was just a thought.
We could look into their health problems if they are willing to divulge them to us. It just may tie up with a few other things that were associated with the twin bases.

Obs

[redsocks]

No cant buy that Observer theres to much other info here involving people who have a story to tell.What I would like to do is maybe get people who have witnessed these lights to compere what they saw,see if they are seeing the same thing.

Redsocks

[Observer]

Theres quite a few local Brits who saw lights and Brenda Butler may be able to help here as she knows or knew most of them.

I wonder if any body working on the Ness saw lights, however, they would probably have gone home for the night or were on Christmas leave. I also wonder if its worth asking the local fishermen, but again many may have retired now and might be hard to find.

Obs

[slipX]

This isn't directly connected with Rendlesham time or location-wise but it's always stuck in my mind. I have an old book 'UFO Mysteries' and it mentions the following:

"Two policemen responded to a 999 call at Hainault Forest, Essex early one morning in 1977, and spotted a tent-like object glowing red through the trees. They watched it 'pulsing' for three minutes, then it dissolved into darkness.

I've always thought that the similarities between this incident and Rendlesham are striking.

[Observer]

Hi slipX

I wonder if it was a tent and the people in just turned the light off?

However, its interesting in as much that this was also seen in a forest as was Rendlesham. The shapes are loosely similar. It would be interesting to get the Police report on that. We must class it as a UGO, Unidentified Ground Object.

Obs