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Re: Rendle sham

Postby John Burroughs » Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:05 pm

arvd wrote:
John Burroughs wrote:
Deep Purple wrote:JB

"Too often we... enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.
John F. Kennedy"


"res ipsa loquitor"


There are some people who, if they don't already know, you can't tell 'em.
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"I like to copy sayings from books"""""""""" Jb """""""""""" 0101010101010101""""""""""010101"I like attention up the pub"""""""""jb""""""""I was there but I like to remain non committal so I don't look stupid"""""""""But I'm starting to look stupid""""""0101010101010"""beam me up Scotty""""""""


Yawn! It's like deja-vu, all over again.
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Re: Rendle sham

Postby AgentAppleseed » Wed Feb 02, 2011 6:44 pm

The bottom line with this one is the story is dead.


I think your wrong Deep Purple. I`m not dising you either, in case you think I am! I just think ramsrcs thought below; is more accurate! The R.F.I has a life of its own, and although we all might play a part, however small, its fate wont be decided by you, or I. A new chapter has begun, that’s all! I also think there are a few surprises in store!

What is actually quite interesting about the RFI is that every so often there is a resurgence of interest, followed by a revelation, followed by howls of derision and then a period of silence before the cycle repeats itself.
At no time did I observe anything from the time I arrived at RAF Woodbridge.
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Re: Rendle sham

Postby John Burroughs » Wed Feb 02, 2011 8:32 pm

AgentAppleseed wrote:
The bottom line with this one is the story is dead.


I think your wrong Deep Purple. I`m not dising you either, in case you think I am! I just think ramsrcs thought below; is more accurate! The R.F.I has a life of its own, and although we all might play a part, however small, its fate wont be decided by you, or I. A new chapter has begun, that’s all! I also think there are a few surprises in store!

What is actually quite interesting about the RFI is that every so often there is a resurgence of interest, followed by a revelation, followed by howls of derision and then a period of silence before the cycle repeats itself.


It ain't over till it's over.
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Re: Rendle sham

Postby Deep Purple » Thu Feb 03, 2011 3:59 pm

AA I here what your saying, and in a certain sense you are right. The trouble is so much has gone under the bridge now so to speak , how would we know the truth even if it smacked us in the face!. You have some witnesses are potentially discredited, others reduced to making quotes from the Wal Mart book of "Easy quotes to impress your dinner party guests".
So what are we all to make of it?
The Apollo capsule prank isnt a bad fit and may just be the truth.
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Re: Rendle sham

Postby John Burroughs » Thu Feb 03, 2011 7:16 pm

Here somthing to chew on Deep Purple

Beam Me Up: 'Teleportation' Is Year's Biggest Breakthrough

http://www.foxnews.com/


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Thanks to physics, and the truly bizarre quirks of quarks, those Star Trek style teleporters may be more than fiction.

A strange discovery by quantum physicists at the University of California Santa Barbara means that an object you can see in front of you may exist simultaneously in a parallel universe -- a multi-state condition that has scientists theorizing that teleportation or even time travel may be much more than just the plaything of science fiction writers.

Until this year, all human-made objects have moved according to the laws of classical mechanics, the rules governing ordinary objects. Toss a ball in the air and it falls back to Earth. Drop a coin from your roof and it falls into your yard. But back in March, a group of researchers designed a gadget that moves in ways that can only be described by quantum mechanics -- the set of rules that governs the behavior of tiny things like molecules, atoms, and subatomic particles.

And the implication -- that teleportation and even time travel may someday, somehow be a reality -- is so groundbreaking that Science magazine has labelled it the most significant scientific advance of 2010.

Physicists Andrew Cleland and John Martinis from the University of California at Santa Barbara and their colleagues designed the machine -- a tiny metal paddle just barely visible to the naked eye -- and coaxed it into dancing with a quantum groove: First, they cooled the paddle until it reached its "ground state," or the lowest energy state permitted by the laws of quantum mechanics (a goal long-sought by physicists). Then they raised the widget's energy by a single quantum to produce a purely quantum-mechanical state of motion. They even managed to put the gadget in both states at once, so that it literally vibrated a little and a lot at the same time -- a bizarre phenomenon allowed by the weird rules of quantum mechanics.

"When you observe something in one state, one theory is it split the universe into two parts," Cleland told FoxNews.com at the time, trying to explain how there can be multiple universes and we can see only one of them.

Crazy? Maybe. Insanely great science? Absolutely.

Science magazine has just recognized this first quantum machine as the 2010 Breakthrough of the Year. The magazine's editors have also compiled nine other important scientific accomplishments from this past year into a top ten list, appearing in a special feature in the journal's current issue.

"On a conceptual level that's cool because it extends quantum mechanics into a whole new realm," said Adrian Cho, a news writer for Science. "On a practical level, it opens up a variety of possibilities ranging from new experiments that meld quantum control over light, electrical currents and motion to, perhaps someday, tests of the bounds of quantum mechanics and our sense of reality."

Science's list of the nine other groundbreaking achievements from 2010 follows.

Synthetic Biology: In a defining moment for biology and biotechnology, researchers built a synthetic genome and used it to transform the identity of a bacterium. The genome replaced the bacterium's DNA so that it produced a new set of proteins—an achievement that prompted a Congressional hearing on synthetic biology. In the future, researchers envision synthetic genomes that are custom-built to generate biofuels, pharmaceuticals or other useful chemicals.
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Re: Rendle sham

Postby Deep Purple » Thu Feb 03, 2011 7:58 pm

Thanks JB for that.
I do accept that there may be more than one dimension. I used to do Physics at college and it was always a theory that we may well live in a multi dimensional universe. I have to admit I was too stupid to understand all the physics associated with this. Also if you look at zero point energy this is an interesting concept. In the last century we went from Orville Wright to the Saturn five in 60yrs, so we do have the ability to develop technology. If you had said to someone in 1860 that we could travel outside the atmosphere at hypersonic speeds within 100 yrs they would not beleive it.
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Re: Rendle sham

Postby John Burroughs » Thu Feb 03, 2011 8:02 pm

Deep Purple wrote:Thanks JB for that.
I do accept that there may be more than one dimension. I used to do Physics at college and it was always a theory that we may well live in a multi dimensional universe. I have to admit I was too stupid to understand all the physics associated with this. Also if you look at zero point energy this is an interesting concept. In the last century we went from Orville Wright to the Saturn five in 60yrs, so we do have the ability to develop technology. If you had said to someone in 1860 that we could travel outside the atmosphere at hypersonic speeds within 100 yrs they would not beleive it.


So what does that say about somthing from the furture coming back in time? A few months ago if you even brought this up on the forum you were ripped to shreads!
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Re: Rendle sham

Postby Deep Purple » Thu Feb 03, 2011 8:43 pm

JB I was not one that would have shredded this idea. As I have said on many occasions there are many potential explanations but only one will be true.
We have to accept that inter dimensional or time travel may be possible for more advanced civalisations, but at the moment we dont know how to do this.
If you gave Leanardo De Vinci a modern day Ipad he could see what it did but would not be able to grasp the technology
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Re: Rendle sham

Postby John Burroughs » Thu Feb 03, 2011 8:48 pm

Yes but many others have and they have enjoyed taking pot shots at what I have had to say! Now here we are in 2011 with the possibility of time travel....
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Re: Rendle sham

Postby John Burroughs » Thu Feb 03, 2011 9:36 pm

Again why does it have to be one explanation! There is some kind of energy source out there! The cameras picked something up on infer red and the meter detected a energy field while we were out there in December! The effects we experienced did have some kind of EM effect does that mean its natural or man made or both! We could have been dealing with several different things at one time. There are several people on this forum that want to take pot shots and then run to momma. When time travel came up it was shredded so lets stick with the Lighthouse or Space capsule that what it was. So now we have something that shows time travel will be possible so now what? And one more thing why did that not come up in my Hypnosis look its the lighthouse no its Apollo I bet if it had everybody would have said the Hypnosis was right!!!
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Re: Rendle sham

Postby arvd » Fri Feb 04, 2011 11:27 am

I predict that time travel will never be possible. None of you will ever live to see it.
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Re: Rendle sham

Postby AgentAppleseed » Fri Feb 04, 2011 5:35 pm

Time "Control" is already being worked on. Theres a scientist by the name of Dr Ronald Mallet, who is actively working on it right now. Time "control" is the first step on the path to time travel. Sending information into the past will be the first attempt at time "travel". If your interested in it ARVD, theres a nice little introductory video at the following link-http://videosift.com/video/Dr-Mallet-Talks-about-his-Time-Machine
There`s another guy, by the name of Dr. David Lewis Anderson, who has been involved in secret work on time control, which has been going on behind the scenes, for a long time. All of the technology involved in Mallets work, and some, of what Anderson talks about, has been around for quite a long time, and one particular aspect of it that is massively important, is the concept of sending information into the past. Sending information into the past, is a far easier task to accomplish, than sending people, or objects, into the past. Scientists start off small, attempting to send particles through time, but as soon as you perfect a way of sending information, by way of particles, or some other medium, which is just as "easy" to work with, that`s a game changer right there. That`s hugely important! I suspect that was achieved, a long time ago. Personally, I think theyve been beavering away at time control in secret, for a very long time, and I also think that there`s a very real possibility that some of the UFO disinformation, that`s out there, is to hide this work. Whats important to remember is that time "control" and time "travel", are two slightly different concepts. One will eventually lead to the other, but don`t get put off the idea of time travel, because scientists say they`ll never be able to send a man through time. That idea, is the equivalent of propaganda or disinformation. The perfection of a means to send information through time, is just as significant. That kind of technology gives an individual, or a country tremendous power.
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Re: Rendle sham

Postby AgentAppleseed » Fri Feb 04, 2011 5:39 pm

Dr Mallet makes an interesting point concerning the limits of his time machine, in terms of how far into the past, his device will allow him to travel. When you turn it on today, and you leave it on, it will only act during the time you leave it on. If you switch it on, and leave it on, for a one hundred year period, you can travel back to any point along that one hundred year timeline, but you cannot go any further back, than the point it was switched on. The point in time at which the device was switched on; is your limit! That makes me wonder about time machines built in the future. Will they all suffer from that particular weakness? It seems that with Dr Mallets method, the answer is yes, however, for him its still early days, and although it seems unlikely, he may yet find a way around the problem. All technologies have limits, but there are other scientists out there like Anderson for instance, who are working with other methods of accomplishing something similar to Mallets work. Maybe the EM energy that is in the area of Rendlesham, is a field that is being created, as part and parcel of an experiment, which is being carried out in the future, in the area around woodbridge, and whats being felt there, is the other end of a tunnel, like Dr Mallets tunnel. Alternatively, the EM field might be a side effect of a naturally occuring phenomenon, which when manipulated in a particular way, allows a scientist from the future, or the present, a way around the problem of not being able to travel further back in time, than the moment his device was first switched on. Maybe scientists were involved in this work in 1980, in the area around Rendlesham or Orford Ness. Maybe they intentionally, or accidentally trigered something which they may, or may not have understood.
Id be interested in finding out whether that EM field is located in that field beside the forest all the time, or just some of the time. Plus, if its not in the field all the time, does that mean it just disappears, or does it move around the area? I wonder!
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Re: Rendle sham

Postby Frank » Fri Feb 04, 2011 7:28 pm

:?: :?: :?:
I probably missed something.. can someone explain how we got from unexplained lights and a story+notebook full of inconsistencies to time travel?

I don’t see any connection anymore. I investigated a possible connection in the past, and even then it didn’t make sense: http://www.rendlesham-incident.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=792

Anyway, before you start thinking about time travel you’ll need to solve some issues ...

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Re: Rendle sham

Postby AgentAppleseed » Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:00 pm

Well, all I can say is that there are better minds than mine, working on those issues. and a lot of them are stuck with it. Dr Mallet is approaching time in a practical way, and guys like him, will be the ones that crack the science behind it. I don`t think its necessary to solve those issues, in order to try and understand what JB experienced. I was just throwing something out there to try and expand a little bit, on JB`s notion below. They are just thought`s, that`s all! Somebody somewhere has mentioned the fact that Dr Anderson once worked on Bentwater`s. Now, I don`t know if that`s true or not, but I have heard it mentioned twice, and if true, that`s an interesting co-incidence in itself!
The effects we experienced did have some kind of EM effect does that mean its natural or man made or both! We could have been dealing with several different things at one time.
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Re: Rendle sham

Postby WizardofOdd » Sat Feb 05, 2011 8:22 am

Stephen Hawkin did some interesting experiments to disprove that time travel was possible, but the more I look at the crazy spectrum of UFO sightings, the more I'm reminded of the camouflaged safari tour trucks, and how someone from a neighbouring multiverse might be popping 'through'! Only they never quite seem to get their research right and end up sticking out like a sore thumb in terms of disguising themself to fit in with the technology of the day -or maybe the chronological entry point isn't that reliable/predictable lol? There definitely seems to be an abundance of naturally occurring energy at Rendlesham, based on reading between the lines in books I've read from people such as Nick Redfern. A scientific geological survey of the area might throw up some interesting readings. Maybe it is on an active fault line (earth lights anyone?)?
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