Linda Moulton Howe's reports

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Re: Linda Moulton Howe's reports

Postby Shearwater » Sat Jul 02, 2011 12:27 pm

Ian is doing what he does best: being selective with the data!
James Easton 'tracks down' Chris Arnold (doesn't this bit of spin make it sound like an exciting and arduous quest!?) seventeen years after the event. Arnold then presumes to tell the reporter what everyone else involved knew!

Some facts:
1) You CAN'T see the lighthouse or its beam from the East Gate.
2) You CAN'T see it or its beam from the Forest, now or then!
BUT!
3) You could hardly miss it as you flew into either base. Nor could you miss it if you went for a pint in Orfordness.

Both Burroughs & Penniston made it plain in their initial statements that they recognised the lighthouse for what it was having walked TWO MILES past Green Farm: they BOTH stated that this was not what they had observed in the Forest or from the East Gate.

http://rendlesham-incident.co.uk/old/th ... ements.php
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Re: Linda Moulton Howe's reports

Postby IanR » Sat Jul 02, 2011 12:34 pm

Observer wrote:Correct me if i'm wrong, but didn't Halt say that he saw a light blinking about every 5 seconds which is about the time it takes for the light house light to go 360 degrees.

Indeed. And they took a bearing on it (110 degrees). And they walked past the farmhouse to try to reach it but found it was "clear off to the coast". So – what lies on the coast to the east of Rendlesham Forest and flashes every 5 seconds?

Observer wrote:If it wasn't the light house that Halt saw, then what did he see that blinked every 5 seconds?

Good question. But the lighthouse deniers have decided it couldn't have been the lighthouse so, in their estimation, it never can be. Even to the point of denying Trinity House figures about its brightness.

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Re: Linda Moulton Howe's reports

Postby IanR » Sat Jul 02, 2011 12:51 pm

Shearwater wrote:You CAN'T see it or its beam from the Forest, now or then!

Well, the forester who lived there in the 1980s knew differently, and I found that he was right when he took me to see it back in 1983
http://www.ianridpath.com/ufo/rendlesham1c.htm

And of course the police who turned up at the time said they could see the lighthouse, and decided that it was what had fooled the airmen.

And Evan Davies and Mark Pilkington could see it easily enough when I took them there last summer for the Today programme.

And Adrian has filmed it and put footage online.

Not to mention all the others who have been there to see it for themselves.

But, as I said above, the lighthouse deniers have decided that it can't be the lighthouse so they will reject all evidence to the contrary, no matter who it is from and even when backed up by photographic evidence.

I do think David B was being genuine when he said they wanted to be left alone with their delusions.

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Re: Linda Moulton Howe's reports

Postby Shearwater » Sat Jul 02, 2011 1:50 pm

Well Ian: you reach new levels of arrogance and duplicity!
You can see neither the lighthouse NOR its 'beam' from within the Forest, either now or then. I have been visiting the Forest regularly since the 70s, so I KNOW this as a fact. You can see it VERY distantly from the picnic table. I repeat: VERY distantly. When it was still lit, the 'beam' was a tiny spark of light that could just be made out on a clear, dark, mist-free night. That Ian, is a FACT!
You use Vince Thurkettle as your primary evidence to the contrary, as if his word is more reliable than that of a Lt Col in the USAF.
You continue to pretend that the lighthouse beam was 5 million candle power when even the current Trinity House website lists it as far less: the reduction in power was from 750K to 650K: the range remained the same. The light is also listed as being always less than one million candle power on any number of websites
http://www.trinityhouse.co.uk/lighthous ... dness.html
http://www.scotlights.com/stats.htm

I guess that having made a nice little career augmentation from denying the RFI, you can hardly do a volte face now.
But do yourself a favour: go and join a forum where the members are not generally so aware of your agenda!
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Re: Linda Moulton Howe's reports

Postby IanR » Sat Jul 02, 2011 2:56 pm

QED.

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Postby Shearwater » Sat Jul 02, 2011 4:42 pm

LOL!
More a case of QCIC (quis custodiet ipsos custodes!)
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Re: Linda Moulton Howe's reports

Postby Deep Purple » Sat Jul 02, 2011 8:31 pm

I must admit that I havent been to the site, but as a sea fisherman at night a lighthouse , well ,er always looks like a lighthouse. On many nights after the events Halt and his men could have walked into the woods and seen the lighthouse, none have ever conme back and said this is what we saw. Many have specifically excluded the lighthouse.

I mean think about it people, the light would have been the same on the 25 Dec 1980 through till many months after the event.
As for planets at night-- well they are not that bright ( I fish the sea at night, so I get lovely clear views of them) and they just look like er well planets, even as a cub scout on his first camp in the countryside i wouldnt have been spooked by them.

it would be intresting if JB could approx advise us how long before the event most of the security patrols had been used to the area. ie days , weeks months?
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