Jim, John, Larry - Do you feel the Gov't still monitors you?

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Jim, John, Larry - Do you feel the Gov't still monitors you?

Postby JamesLA » Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:32 pm

Since you have first-hand knowledge and personally witnessed one of the most significant 'above top secret' events do you think our Government/Military still keeps tabs on you? My guess is that they might have a file on you, but I doubt they are too concerned about you speaking out since the media doesn't really give this topic the attention it deserves. It is usually pushed aside or made light of. Therefore, any books, movies, conventions concerning the Rendlesham Incident doesn't bother the 'Secret Keepers' too much. If they did harass or get directly involved in limiting anyone from speaking out it would make the military/government appear to be hiding something, and make this subject matter appear even more legitimate. The day our media gives this subject top priority like Iraq, economy, or celebrities is the day the 'Secret Keepers' would become very alarmed and use subversive measures, ie disinformation, to put a lid on it, which they already do to a certain extent.

Are you concerned at all about speaking out?

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Re: Jim, John, Larry - Do you feel the Gov't still monitors

Postby larry warren » Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:08 pm

Hi James, thats a 100% yes, particularly back in the 80s and 90s, alot of yhis was wittinessed by family, friends, and early american researchers of the events, peter robbins also got on someones radar, all of it is covered in our Book Left at east gate.
further, im the only wittiness that we know of that had his passport suspended by the feds, and it took Attorney general Ramsey clark to get it back for me. as for Halt taking every opertunity to slight me in media, its strange that when he does so he also confirmes i was involved (Enos show) and that Navy Intel was involved in the aftermath, to date, im the only one that said that. read Halts interviews in our book, the first he ever did in a book, and shine a light for your self.also alot of the spin comes from the research comunity and a fw players, never a dull moment! great question, Cheers ( the Cias poster boy) LOL
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Re: Jim, John, Larry - Do you feel the Gov't still monitors

Postby JamesLA » Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:45 pm

Thanks Larry. I had to laugh at CIA's poster boy. LOL. I was just curious if any Government/Military monitoring was still going on to this present day. I have read your book "Left at East Gate" and remember you discussing the passport incident. Although I have read other accounts of the Rendlesham Incident, it was fascinating to read it from someone like yourself who witnessed it first hand. I will always take your word over that of our military. I have seen too many times the way they lie to the American people, and the ludicrous excuses they invent to explain UFO activity is laughable. I really do hope the media will start to take this subject more seriously. We may start to see a shift with books like yours, Leslie Kean, and others.
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Re: Jim, John, Larry - Do you feel the Gov't still monitors

Postby larry warren » Wed Sep 15, 2010 12:11 am

Thanks for that James, i still find related books in the New Age section, and thaTS A shame, but the blaim must rest with the retailier, sadly keens new book will suffer the same placement on the shelf< i just hope she dosent get robed like we did>
further< i am also aware that my WORD< is tainted as is others by what was done to us either by us or them ! or both ! thanks for your interest in this crazy thing ! i dont think they pay attention to me these days,and as ive said on radio< i dont want to be CREDIBLE ! got a boy to raise ! jim and john im sure are keeping certain folks up at night !all the best ! lARRY
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Re: Jim, John, Larry - Do you feel the Gov't still monitors

Postby stephan » Wed Sep 15, 2010 10:03 pm

Larry, they may also be interested in you not only because of your involvement in the RFI but also because you had contact to ... well ... aliens (I hope you'll forgive me, I know you don't call them this way but I think I'm save to say that most of the UFO community calls those little folks with big heads and bug eyes this way). My personal years-long ''investigation'' has led me to the assumption that this contact is mostly telepathically. The Gov/ Military folks have no means to decipher telepathic communication. Hence they may be very interested in what those aliens (entities, other dimensional beings or what you like to call them) have to say to us and what they are up to. Obviously not everyone - especially of those in power - is a ''contactee''. I'm convinced that not only the encounter you had at Rendlesham but also the many other encounters you mention in your book have influenced you quite a bit - just like it has influenced me. They (the gov/mil) are probably aware of these ''changes'' in people, they probably DO track those UFOs on radar and know exactly who is being ''abducted'' and are more or less ''worried'' about that. You are imo - frankly speaking - much different from everyday people. You DO share everything you know with others, you don't keep important issues to yourself - no matter what. They ''feel'' redlined and therefore they monitor you and everyone who has been contacted. I know this belongs to the conspiracy section but well, it's perhaps something we should consider possible. This human - Grey connection may be much older than one might think, it could even go back as far as antediluvian times (and also involve additional, more human-like ''aliens''). Remember those strange petroglyphs in different parts of the world ? Back then contact may have even been physical.

here are just a few:

http://www.stoptherobbery.com/Alien2.jpg

http://www.1yoz.de/1yoz/bilder/mai06/cp_bigge36.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3549/363 ... 3785_o.jpg

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/cimages/v ... medium.jpg

http://www.rumormillnews.com/pix5/incisione1.gif


and imo they will monitor as long as you live. Once an abductee/ contactee - always an abductee/ contactee ... as always a threat to those who want to rule us. I'm sure they know the truth about ''their'' intentions and do they have an interest in revealing it ? I quote you here from facebook: ''it will never happen''. We have to find out for ourselves. That's their biggest fear. The more people do find out the more they will lose their power over us and in the world. One of these truths - imho - is the nuclear one. ET don't like nukes 8) - the ultimate mean of power and destruction. There will be a press conference about that topic on Sept. 27th as you know

thx JamesLA for bringing this up, very interesting topic!
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Re: Jim, John, Larry - Do you feel the Gov't still monitors

Postby larry warren » Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:55 pm

Steve, i know aliens are here, further if the evidance was presented in court, it would be a winner ! rendlesham aint shit next to what ive seen! Really. sadly the feds have played around with the players to the extent we will never know. also far more than 2 to 5 percent of sightings are THEM. Really
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Re: Jim, John, Larry - Do you feel the Gov't still monitors

Postby larry warren » Thu Sep 16, 2010 12:34 am

that last one sounds too all knowing by me !I just want to say that with two guys reporting the same "CONTACT" information
ive no dought that what they say happened, did happen! what troubles me is that the inteligence behind this subject tend to lie further language tends to evolve not devolve, i e symbols, what is the purpose of this Message to jim and john? is it a lie? and are we serving a rather nasty master, and not know it ! the books by hopkins, Jacobs, Mack, streiber and leir suggust this might be the case, no space brothers here folks, just an agenda that might not have our best interest at hart. and no, this is not fringe stuff by any means.
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Re: Jim, John, Larry - Do you feel the Gov't still monitors

Postby JamesLA » Thu Sep 16, 2010 4:38 am

Thanks Stephan for your comments. I always try to keep an open mind on things and yet approach everything with a healthy dose of skepticism. I can't prove scientifically UFO's have aliens but based on eyewitness testimony and the experiences of those with encounters I do believe. It makes the most logical sense, and the fact that they would show the most interest in humankind, hence abductions. I think they do so with the least amount of interference in our world which helps explain why UFO's are so stealthy. I agree too that there is definitely a nuke connection. It was probably the main factor as to why the Rendlesham Incident occurred.

I often thought (and this is purely speculation on my part), what if our Government made a pact with the aliens. We will allow you to abduct our civilians, cattle, etc. in exchange for your technology. I couldn't think of a greater reason for our Government/Military wanting to keep it secret. Imagine the uproar that would cause if citizens knew our very own Government, a Government sworn to protect its people, sold them out.

In many ways I rather envy those like Larry Warren who have had such extraordinary experiences, although, I'm sure Larry may differ with that. Perhaps, he would give anything to trade it all in for a 'normal' life. I think from reading 'Left At East Gate' the biggest reason for any stress caused Larry is from the way the Government/Military handled his situation and their treatment of him. Please correct me Larry if you feel differently about that.
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Re: Jim, John, Larry - Do you feel the Gov't still monitors

Postby tpreitzel » Thu Sep 16, 2010 5:58 am

larry warren wrote:also far more than 2 to 5 percent of sightings are THEM. Really


Yep... emphasis mine. These entities have incredible ability to mimic physical objects, evade and deceive humanity's sensory system so it is little wonder many investigators cling to that ridiculous 5% figure.
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Re: Jim, John, Larry - Do you feel the Gov't still monitors

Postby larry warren » Thu Sep 16, 2010 11:03 am

james, your right, i was always shocked when some fed thing happened, and it only reinforced that i was on to somthing correct
for instance, at the 2001, washington DC disclousure confrence at the National Press club, the first hour was jamed from within the Beltway meaning that the event lost part of the 5 million people that were loged on to watch the live feed, it was being messed with by intentional means ! and that came from the NPCs uplinc company, also the event had more press in attendance than when presidents spoke at the facility, yet the media made fun as usual, yet the reporters that attended were hooked ?
the problems with the feds are expected, what wasent, was how wittinesses get treated by SOME pro researchers, and frankly, by SOME other wittinesses to the events, ofcourse and as you know my book is not a pro ufo researcher book ! its not even a ufo book, its really about people and thats it. yes Trip, in the end i think im surly more familiar with what lies behind this subject than some of the public wittinesses to the events simply because its been in my life since i was a kid, just as they are more familier with the air force ! see i had alot of "training" in these matters BEFORE i got to bentwaters! its a hard road to walk, and they cant have it both ways, thus i wont lay down and wither, just for the sake of Justice !
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