Camping out

[Jc912]

Hi,

My partner and i went to rendlesham forest a couple of weeks ago during the day, we did find it rather eerily still and silent. In a certain part of the forest we did find it weird we couldn't see or hear any animal life at all and the atmosphere seemed dead!

We were so intrigued about the place and its history that we are actually going back this saturday coming so we can see the place at night and we are camping out in the campsite there. We are taking a high powered torch, a camcorder and a still camera. Hopefully we might get some good pictures

We would appreciate any advice on what to look for, and in particular if there is anywhere off of the ufo trail that might be worthwhile taking a look at.

Also, has anyone else experienced this.....The last time we were there, on the last leg of the trail, we were circled by a low flying army helicopter twice.

Thanks Chris and Jacqui

[Andy]

I have experienced the helicopters too Jac. Quite un-nerving to experience as they are very noisy. What great fun, camping out in Rendlesham and being there at night. Make sure you witness the bright beam of the lighthouse, and be sure to take your sunglasses Take random photos with your digicam in the bushes particularly along the track where site 3 (Colonel Halt's site) is situated, and don't feel un-nerved if you feel like you are being watched whilst walking down this track If you hear what sounds like wolves howling during the night, don't get spooked and suddenly pack up and go; a husky breeder lives nearby and this is all you are hearing.

Maybe take a compass, and see how it reacts towards the top end of logging track 8 (previously route 12). At the top of route 8 at the edge of the farmer's field you will find two beech trees to your right. Look towards the base of the trunk of the furthest tree to the right and look for the natural ET looking face in the trunk (the 'Alien tree.') At the top of route 8 and the last track on the left, and the area of trees on your left hand side is what is known as 'Blair witch' where people have alleged to have experienced 'missing time' personally i will believe it when i experience it, but you never know At the top of route 8 and in the farmer's field (on your left, facing the field is Larry Warren's oak tree).

Entering the forest from what was previously route 10 opposite Folly House, take the first path on the left then take the next logging track to the right. A few hundred yards down is where a 'big cat' ie a Panther was alledgedly seen sitting in a clearing. Also take random pictures down this track for orbs.

There are various outside interests of the forest. Sutton Hoo (personally i'd save my money), Orford Castle, or maybe sit on Orforness beach and see if you can see green lights moving under the water? Or see objects suddenly suddenly emerging out of the water which various people have claimed to have witnessed.

Apart from this, have a good weekend, and have fun. Wish it was me Will be good to hear of any experiences you have.

[Deep Purple]

Take a copy of Iron Maiden " Fear of the Dark " with you and play it!
Please dont worry about woods at night, there will be nothing in them to harm you!
Woods in England are very quiet at night, you may hear however owls which can screech alarmingly, and shortly you will be in Fox mating season , and these animals make the most un godly , spooky noises ever. They range from clicking to terrible terrible screeches

[Observer]

If you had Brenda Butler with you it could get 'spooky'

Observer

[Andy]

LOL!!

Ref the foxes though, yes i must admit, that sound is very un-nerving.

[DoRayEgon]

Spent many nights in Rendleshame forest, no more spooky than any of the other 30 odd i've slept in unless Brenda is of course providing the "atmos"
Most Forests go quiet, it's the animals checking you out, deciding if you are preditor or harmless, you are of course an alien in thier world
Foxes dam things live on my housing estate, when the babies are born you'd think somone was getting raped or killed judging by the screams the pups give out when looking for mum (wheres me gun )
If you really want to burn your eyes on the light house take some night vision binoculars and look at it through them, it will burn them out and make em give off weird starlike streaks to normal lights after but at least you'll get the feel for what Halt saw when he looked at whatever the light was through his starscope

[Observer]

Hi DoRayEgon

You can imagine then what it was like for me as i and a friend used to go roost shooting in that forest at night using night scopes. This was in the late 70's early 80's.

We would often have a chat through the fence with the USAF Police and would swap ciggies.
Once we proved we had no cameras, they were more interested in our guns and most talk was about their hunting trips back home.
We never once saw the light house beam do what was claimed and it was only ever a dim distant light that flashed. In no way did it illuminate the trees, well it didn't when i was in the woods. The forest does go deathly quiet when humans are there because as you say the animals are checking you out. You could walk right under a roosting Pheasant literally a foot above your head and it would stay motionless hoping you would not detect it.

Observer

[DoRayEgon]

Back then i assume they where plantation rows? what way did they run?
North/south or east/west? or the orientation to the east gate/access road, just an old question form back in the James Easton days, from when the police car hoax first appeared
As to wether the lighthouse lit up the forest, even though i know the light has changed over the years i doubt it, as to wether there where was seperate light that lit up the forest i don't know
The first night it was like a cristmas tree and/or lit up the forest, the second night was a small red light in a different location that only really became interesting after veiwing it through a night vision, every strange thing about the light on the second night stems from looking at it through a starscope, it was totaly different to the first night so why does it have to be conected? strange yes, connected ?
The 2 seperate nights often get mixed into one sighting but they where seperate, the only similarity is the US airman, a forest and a light at night.

[Observer]

Hi

I realy can't remember which way the plantation rows faced in relation to East Gate or any part of the perimeter fence.

What is interesting and i did mention it in a post a long time ago. Two of my friends who lived locally [one was my shooting partner] had heard about the incident from some of their US airmen friends and when the dust had settled about a week after decided to have a look around the forest.
They found lying in some undergrowth on the edge of a logging track a US Airforce Police issue torch and it was fitted with a red filter over the lense. My friend still has the torch as he saw it as 'booty' and reconed they wouldn't miss it. Make of this what you will.

As for the light house, i cannot see it being the sole source of all the reported lights especially when witnesses described what the lights were doing. I just cannot believe that it is all down to the light house beam, star scope or not.

Observer

[DoRayEgon]

No worries it was just a small question that came up when Conde first came out with the hoax story, could a police car drive through the forest in the direction the lighs (first night) moved in, plantation rows are easyer to drive along that a natural forest but much harder to cross sideways.
P.S if ever anyone wants to drive a Mk4 escort through a forest in the summer you want 15 PSI MAX in the tyres (it's OK i used to own a paintball site it was my forest )

Most forces issue lights come with a red filter for night use, it illuminates without ruining the users night vision, i have 4 or 5 army issue torches (including some nice maglights ) they mainly have white(diffused) bue and red and a clear jeweld like beam splitter in the base (those angled ones the fire brigade use).
When your setting up partys in the middle of a forest you can never have too many torches
OK, i have a thing for lights

On the subject of ruining your night vision If look at a light through a starscop till "it allmost burns your eye" *Quoted from Charles Halt on the transcript of the tape* you night vision is going to be pretty much fecked for a good while, now if the starscope was passed around the group anything the users saw over the next 10 to 45mins is susspect.
http://www.visualexpert.com/Resources/nightvision.html

sorry i seem to have gone off on a tangent to this thread
My appologies, things jsut pop in there and if i dont get em out and written down they're gone for another year or so

[Observer]

Hi

I agree, you must right things down as they enter your mind otherwise as you say they get lost.

I discounted as many others have including Admin the light house theory a long time ago.
The evidence just does not stack up.
I'm open to more discussion on the subject but i have exhausted most of the senario to the point that i cannot see me having anything useful left to say on the subject. Admin out lined a series of reasons why it was not the light house in a post some time ago.
Vince Thirkettle was the biggest proponant and instigator of the light house theory but even he withdrew it on a recent History Channel documentary.

I suspect that we are all barking up the wrong tree on this incident and it just could be some thing that we have yet to look at. I feel that we are or some of of us are staying within the box and perhaps we should start looking out side the box which could open up an array of new senarios. I tried this myself with the ARRS theory but there could be other ones.
Any body like to introduce a new theory?

Observer