Interesting [David Spoor, Lowestoft UFO Footage]

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Interesting [David Spoor, Lowestoft UFO Footage]

Postby Wolf » Sun May 18, 2008 9:30 pm


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gymfOpKsgo


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Postby Observer » Mon May 19, 2008 1:44 pm

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I have seen the Lowestoft footage before. Its hard to see on Yutube but on TV you can just make out the wing tip strobe lights of an aircraft. The prat who took the video left his camera on auto focus rather than manual on infinity which would have given better definition.
The TV producers [for viewing figures i guess] deliberately did not mention any of this.

It makes me laugh all these out of focus videos of flying saucers.
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Re: Interesting

Postby Admin » Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:42 pm

David Spoor has filmed four UFOs, two of which I believe can be explained. One appears
to show a space shuttle, which was actually over Lowestoft at the time, and the other
(linked to by Wolf) may show a plane.

However, the short Youtube video is not much to go by - the original video clip is much longer and much clearer.
A 'professional' claimed it shows a cloud. I don't know what it is, but it doesn't look that unusual to me.

What about this one? This footage was filmed some years later in Lowestoft by David Spoor.
This is one of the better UFO videos I have seen for two reasons. Firstly, the UFO does not
look like a plane, helicopter, balloon... anything we're used to. Secondly, watch how it accelerates
away - it's so smooth and controlled.


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Re: Interesting [David Spoor, Lowestoft UFO Footage]

Postby Observer » Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:32 pm

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If i remember rightly. the David Spoor videos were analysed [as seen on a history channel UFO documetary] by a Forensic video imaging Lab in London and their findings left Mr Spoor some what embarrassed.
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Re: Interesting [David Spoor, Lowestoft UFO Footage]

Postby Observer » Thu Jun 05, 2008 4:18 pm

Sadly
The UFO world contains many people who are making 'spoof' videos and what's even sadder is the TV companies buy it. We should all be on our guard as these people do damage our credibility.
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Re: Interesting [David Spoor, Lowestoft UFO Footage]

Postby puddlepirate » Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:10 pm

The big problem with almost all UFO images be they video or stills is that they are mostly taken at night using handheld cameras. With roll film the film speed was probably quite slow - around ISO 200 and the camera was probably one used by an average amateur with average settings of something like 1/250 at f16 or 1/125 at f11. Most amateur digital cameras are limited to somewhere around 6 to 7 megapixels and if set on auto focus and auto exposure still won't capture a good quality image at night. Better quality SLR's have above 10 megapixels whilst pro SLRs have 20 mps and above. Cameras on mobile phones usually come in at around 5 megapixels max....some are better than others of course but none of these will capture a good image of a moving object at night. What is needed is a perfectly stationary object with a good quality camera mounted on tripod to allow a long exposure with spot on focus.

The other problem is the inverse square law which applies to light so flash won't help either. Whilst a UFO might appear to be brightly lit to the naked eye, the actual light it emits is very low and not usually enough to show up well in a snatched image. If the light is very bright compared with the background, i.e. the body of the craft, then the auto exposure will only read the light and expose for that. So whilst the bright light might be captured, nothing of the body of the craft is seen because it is underexposed.

Add all that to a handheld camera where camera shake, craft movement etc serve to blur the image and ruin image quality, what you are left with is usually nothing more than a blurry blob of light - if that.

No wonder some people try to fake an image - get a good one that fools the experts and there's money in it! Mind you an image of a London bus or a B17 the Moon is pushing it a bit (that won't make any sense to anyone outside the UK who has never read the Daily Sport) but at least they were created for a laugh, not to deceive.
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Re: Interesting [David Spoor, Lowestoft UFO Footage]

Postby AdrianF » Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:00 pm

Apart from the fact that Mr Spoor has 2 arms ( I presume ) and is clean shaven, he is most likely East Anglia's Billy Meyer.

The ufo in the video that Admin posted moves away quickly, but doesn't streak away, which is exactly what you would expect it to do on a late 1990s Hi8 camera. I think this is actually a really good fake, it's just that as the light moves away, there is no motion blur or light smear that you would expect to see, really the only give away on this low res version. You might notice that as the camera moves slightly to the left, the street light in the upper right hand corner, streaks a little, just as you would expect it to. The UFO doesn't. In my opinion a very well, if easily done fake.

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