Ignis Fatuus or 'foolish fire'

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Re: Ignis Fatuus or 'foolish fire'

Postby John Burroughs » Fri Sep 17, 2010 4:07 pm

Thanks Slivertop there are several other articles also that are very interesting also!
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Re: Ignis Fatuus or 'foolish fire'

Postby John Burroughs » Fri Sep 17, 2010 4:48 pm

Also read a article by Steve Mizrach Titled Super Spectrum Hypothesis or Superspectrum Blues.
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Re: Ignis Fatuus or 'foolish fire'

Postby John Burroughs » Fri Sep 17, 2010 6:30 pm

I think there our some interesting things to look into! Anybody looked at the article Superspectrum Blues?
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Re: Ignis Fatuus or 'foolish fire'

Postby AgentAppleseed » Fri Sep 17, 2010 8:51 pm

Its an interesting article. Perhaps there are some kinds of life forms within the EM spectrum.
Check out the following documentary. These guys are involved in a study in an area in Norway where this exact kind of thing is being seen, and studied on an ongoing basis!Watch out for what they found lying on the bog in part two
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Postby AdrianF » Sat Sep 18, 2010 1:43 pm

I spent time looking into the ghost light phenomena last year. The hobby lanterns, as they were called in Suffolk, have quite a long history in this area.

One thing that caught my attention and I have looked into a bit further, is glowing Barn Owls! This sounds a bit ridiculous, but has some substance to it. I have asked around various wildlife photographers and bird watchers, expecting to be shot down in flames, but the reactions have been quite interesting. It seems like a real phenomena, but just one that hasn't been widely documented in recent years, possibly due to a change in habitat?

There is a book by Fred Silcock, called 'The Min Min Light: The Visitor Who Never Arrives' and Mirage Men author Mark Pilkington has just blogged on this http://miragemen.wordpress.com/2010/08/23/luminous-owls/

It's at least possible that some of the sightings around the flightlines, could have been caused by these.
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Postby ramsrc » Mon Sep 20, 2010 10:15 am

For what it's worth, luminious barn owls exist.

I know because I have seen one with my own eyes as a kid.

Not that it helps a lot - it's just one more piece of anecdotal evidence!
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Postby AgentAppleseed » Mon Sep 20, 2010 5:14 pm

Isnt it inspiring to see the Norwegians, like the French with COMETA, take full advantage of the situation in Hessdalen, as an opportunity to scientifically scrutinise the phenomenon at close quarters, when the opportunity arises. One of the guys in the video brings up an important point, where does the phenomenon get its energy?
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Re: Ignis Fatuus or 'foolish fire'

Postby AdrianF » Mon Sep 20, 2010 6:01 pm

For what it's worth, luminious barn owls exist.

I know because I have seen one with my own eyes as a kid.

Yeah, there seems to have been a number of cases where the Owl has actually been positively ID'd as the source of light, even shot!
I've seen them reflect light from their underside, but never seen this luminance, you're one of the lucky few.

It seems unlikely that they are the source of the Hessdalen lights, but you never know.
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Re: Ignis Fatuus or 'foolish fire'

Postby John Burroughs » Fri Sep 24, 2010 5:36 pm

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I know you have been checking in why have you not had anything to say about the encounter you had? You loved taking shots at what we had to say how come you won't post your story for all to see?
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Re: Ignis Fatuus or 'foolish fire'

Postby Ignis Fatuus » Sun Sep 26, 2010 11:40 am

John

Yeah Ive been checking in on the boards to see if there was anything of interest. Funny really as this Ignis Fatuus topic was something I was really keen to explore. Unfortunately it coincided with my re-evaluation regarding all things Rendlesham and I now feel any further exploration would constitute poor time management.

I don't feel as if I've been taking shots at anybody. I've asked questions that anybody with the will to think for themselves would ask, of the people who claim to have the chromosomes that saved the future... like in that movie :wink: . Anyway we aren't in the Forest, and nobody has ordered anybody to leave their sidearms at the gate.

Not sure what what encounter you are referring to. I'm sure I could tell a story or two, but I don't recall having done so.

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Re: Ignis Fatuus or 'foolish fire'

Postby John Burroughs » Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:35 pm

You were featured in the Dave Clarke article I do believe! Since you won't give out your name at least tell us what Country you are from!
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Re: Ignis Fatuus or 'foolish fire'

Postby Ignis Fatuus » Thu Sep 30, 2010 8:59 pm

John

What part of what I may have written has caused you to believe that...and what section of D.Cs article are you referring to?
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Re: Ignis Fatuus or 'foolish fire'

Postby John Burroughs » Thu Sep 30, 2010 9:23 pm

Before I answer that 2 simple question's have you ever been involved with spook lights and what Country are you from?
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Re: Ignis Fatuus or 'foolish fire'

Postby Ignis Fatuus » Fri Oct 01, 2010 12:01 am

John

Spook lights is a pretty broad topic from what I understand of it. I haven't witnessed the Ignis Fatuus of the type that seems to be similar to what is commonly know as Swamp Gas. But from what I know, swamp gas could be a little too simplistic an explanation if taken literally. Other than that I have pretty much seen most of whats on offer during the hours of darkness. All I'm waiting for... to complete the set, is a lunar impact and a supernova...fingers crossed. Have seen fireballs on two separate occasions and I definitely rate them as a must see....but I think you've already had a visual on one of those..no?
Another thing I found interesting about the Ignis Fatuus, is that they may at times be an indication of where the bodies are buried.

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Re: Ignis Fatuus or 'foolish fire'

Postby Frank » Fri Oct 01, 2010 4:44 pm

Ignis Fatuus wrote:I'm from the Country that likes to lay down a challenge before we play the game.


Sounds interesting. You mean something like this? http://www.rendlesham-incident.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=784 :)

What would you like to achieve with this forum, John? What would be your challenge?
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Re: Ignis Fatuus or 'foolish fire'

Postby puddlepirate » Fri Oct 01, 2010 5:00 pm

A Kiwi.....
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Re: Ignis Fatuus or 'foolish fire'

Postby Ignis Fatuus » Sat Oct 02, 2010 2:11 am

Yep...almost as far from Rendlesham Forest as it's possible to get without leaving Earth or living amongst the Penguins.

But only a few hundred kilometers from Kaikoura, where a series of events took place from December 21 - 31st, 1978, that appear very similar to the RFI. In that series of events there was radar + visual conformation and some of the sightings were filmed by an Australian film crew flying aboard an old Argosy freight plane. Very compelling stuff and as such, one of the most least known about. John if you hadn't already tried to contact a guy called Quentin Fogarty (the news reporter who was on board the plane) I reccomend you touch base with him. I'm sure your media people could find him. Whether it was a combo of non-related events creating the puzzlement, or something else...who knows. As far as I know, he is still as baffled by what was seen as you are with your experience. In case I'm expected to list some links for people to look at...I'm a firm believer of people walking their own path..the destination is much more rewarding when you find your own way there. I would however suggest that people not click on the first google recomendation of wikipedia as that entry has a few misleading claims e.g: it was witnessed by hundreds of people. The action took place whilst most of the country was sleeping.

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Re: Ignis Fatuus or 'foolish fire'

Postby Ignis Fatuus » Sat Oct 02, 2010 3:56 am

Well maybe just a few pathfinders


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Re: Ignis Fatuus or 'foolish fire'

Postby Frank » Sat Oct 02, 2010 12:17 pm

Nice case, but these "lights" still leave a lot of room for mundane explanations.

What if the "lights" start to defend themselves when approached by an F4 Phantom jet?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dO4xrH0wLs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGb07dXBizc
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Re: Ignis Fatuus or 'foolish fire'

Postby puddlepirate » Sat Oct 02, 2010 12:46 pm

IF re your
visual conformation and some of the sightings were filmed by an Australian film crew flying aboard an old Argosy freight plane. Very compelling stuff and as such, one of the most least known about
. I saw that clip on the TV but didn't realise it was so long ago..... very interesting sighting though. I seem to recall the crew were doing something else then either happened upon the iights (or they had heard about them, something like that) and went up again to see if they could get some good video footage, which they managed to do but the footage isn't great, which is a pity.
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