The Utah Ranch

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Postby Kalinoux » Sat Apr 14, 2007 8:13 pm

Hi Andy,

The blue orbs at the ranch that were mentioned also fascinate me. I realise that Admin has a different opinion on this, which i don't dispute ie illuminated dust particles picked up on the camera, but the ones at the ranch could be physically seen by the eye and not just picked up on a camera.


It's true that orbs are a very controversial topic. I don't really know what to think about it, because, I think it has been shown that sometimes it can be due to illuminated dust as Admin thinks, but I think I read also articles which demonstrated that it couldn't be only dust.

And furthermore, if you saw them with your own naked eyes, I understand you're doubtful about illuminated dust as the only explanation.

But I don't remember where I read those articles, and as I'm not an expert, I remain confused about this subject.

The second sighting was in Rendlesham forest one night as it moved amongst the trees on track 12 (now eight). I saw it and said to Brenda Butler, did you see that orb in the trees over there? She responded, oh yes, a red one, as it reappeared through the trees. Now i hadn't told Brenda what colour it was, but yes, the one i saw was red. Why didn't she say oh yes, the yellow, pink, blue, orange one etc? but she didn't. Therefore, arguably, could not have been figments of our imagination?


Yes, the question is why did she only see one orb and not the other ones?
Couldn't that be a phenomena due to weakness, fatigue of eyes due to the fact that this happens during the night ? When it's dark, we force our eyes to see as much as possible ... and may be a physiological phenomena could then happen ... but it's probably a stupid idea :oops:

Kindly,

Kalinoux :wink:
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Postby Kalinoux » Sat Apr 14, 2007 8:19 pm

Hi Andy,

Apparently individuals have heard the sasquatch 'roaring' in the forest. Individuals have spoke of feeling 'watched' when the sasquatch is around. My partner has no real interest in Rendlesham, but on a recent visit there said to me 'Andy, all the while we've walked round here, i've got the feeling that we are being watched.' ! I didn't say anything, but i have to admit, i had felt the same


Wouaw, ... but just a feeling or does it mean that you, from time to time, heard particular noises as if someone or something was following you :?

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Postby Kalinoux » Sat Apr 14, 2007 8:25 pm

Hi Andy,

but also as a portal to other realms


Yes, you're fully right and I remember well what G. Knapp wrote in his article, this happens with at least 2 witnesses and one of them what a scientist from NIDS's staff.

They saw like a bright portal opening in front of them, outside in the fields, and they saw a creature trying to go through it, as if a human being was trying to find and open a door in a high and wide wall. :shock:

And this sighting disappeared as if someone switched off the light somewhere ???

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Postby Kalinoux » Sat Apr 14, 2007 8:28 pm

Hi Andy,

So finally, in both cases, Utah and Rendlesham we have :

- strange "unidentified" animals
- bigfoots
- orbs
- ufos activities
- poltergeists activities

... what about cattle mutilations around Rendlesham ?

and ... what about crop circles ?

Do you know about something around this area ?

I wish every one a very nice week end :wink:

Kalinoux :D
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Strange phenomena around Rendlesham forest

Postby Observer » Sun Apr 15, 2007 2:42 pm

Hi Kalinoux

I'm not sure if Andy or Admin know different but i have not heard of any cattle mutilations or crop circles or any of the other strange phenomena you describe in the Rendlesham area.
Brenda Butler who is a local person claims to see strange phenomena in and around the forest on a regular basis.

Andy may have some info on 'Orbs' but i do not.

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Postby Andy » Sun Apr 15, 2007 9:40 pm

Hi Kalinoux. I only gave 2/3 legend incidents of Black Shuck, but there are many more in our folk history.
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Postby Andy » Sun Apr 15, 2007 9:52 pm

Yes, Kalinoux, we have numerous accounts of big cats in the UK. The area in Rendlesham forest where it was seen, was the first path on the left, off route 10 onto the next logging path. Follow that along to the right, a few hundred feet and it sat in a clearing. Like i said, a friend's husband also saw it (a panther) run in front of his car in the early hours of the morning. Also where i live (next to the A12/14) in Suffolk there have been accounts of it's sightings in the local newpaper (The Evening Star), and foot prints found in peoples' gardens in the area. Also in a national newspaper a photo (and video footage on TV) of a panther caught on security CCTV was also shown. It was definitely a panther. However, it doesn't surprise me. In the 1960's/70's it was fashionable to have dangerous animals such as these big cats. But when keeping such animals was outlawed in this country, i've no doubt people released them into the wild and they have adapted, survived and thrived.
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Postby Andy » Sun Apr 15, 2007 10:18 pm

Kalinoux. Regarding one of your messages above. Last weekend i took two friends from a neighbouring county (Essex) to Rendlesham, who have no interest in it whatsoever. They have two greyhound dogs, similar to myself, and we were simply taking our dogs for a walk. However, when we got back to the car, one of my friends commented (and looked embarrassed to be even mentioning it) that along the path leading to the Colonel Halt site he had felt that he was 'being watched'

All the times i've been to Rendlesham at night, i can honestly say that i have never witnessed strange sounds. Apart from the eerie screams of a fox. This is what i'm convinced the men in the original Rendlesham UFO incident heard when it was spoke of 'Women screaming.'
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Postby Andy » Sun Apr 15, 2007 11:00 pm

Interesting that Admin mention, Wiltshire, Kalinoux. Look up 'Cradle Hill' in Wiltshire (UK). Similar to Rendlesham, alleged UFO events that took place there, were next to a military base. And also as Admin mentioned, most crop circles seem to take place in the Wiltshire (West country) area?
However, (i'm sure some will argue with this) the West Country is rich with Ley-lines (e.g. Glastonbury). It is also said that old Priorys/Monastrys were built upon Ley-lines? Where i live (in the East of England) is an old monastry site. A cousin of mine (a level headed woman) is convinced to this day that she saw a UFO in a farmer's field near to my house back in the 1980's. She saw this relatively large, glowing ball of blue light in said farmer's field. She stopped her car in a lay-by to try and comprehend just what she was witnessing. Suddenly a beam of blue light emitted from the ball of light across the field, onto the road where her car was parked and edged up to the side of her car (she was terrified) until it all disappeared in a 'blink of the eye.' ?? Like i said, i know my cousin, and she is not prone to fantasy, and she seemed quite embarrassed relaying this to me.
Also if i'm correct, there is an old monastry/priory very near to Rendlesham forest?


What also intrigues me though, is that the Utah ranch was rich in Gilsonite deposits in the earth? It has always intrigued me to know whether Rendlesham forest is rich in Gilsonite? Gilsonite is a resinous compound. Pine trees give off resins. How old is Rendlesham forest, and what trees has it contained in it's history?....i don't know. Perhaps Admin can help us here?
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