The Object ..

[Shearwater]

For the benefit of any 'newbies' (as IR patronisingly calls them) that haven't visited the forest, the idea that the Orford light is the major factor in the Rendlesham incident simply doesn't wash. I've been visiting the Forest since 1976 and can assure you that the 'beam' does not and never did 'sweep through the tree-tops' as often reported. The light house can be seen from the picnic table, but its light is now and always was a tiny red spark on the horizon. Ian R insists on publishing photos that suggest the lighthouse is just the other side of the Capel Green landing field: it isn't!
A better, up-to-date photo is on a site I found the other day:
http://www.chilling-tales.com/page59.html

[Imperium_85]

There is a couple of things that bother me about this incident that, well, have probably been addressed before, but here goes : -

1 - Jim's new story about having some code downloaded. Why was this not mentioned years ago? it certainly does not add much credibility to the story when one of its main witnesses suddenly adds a dramatic twist after nearly 30 years. This somewhat reminds me of Steven Greer and his disclosure project. He initially strated out quite small and suddenly he can no contact ET's ( and can help a member of the public do the same... for a rather large fee.. ).

2 - The fact that jim and johns accounts differ ( somewhat substantially ) in regards to the landed craft. Jim apparerently took pictures and touched the craft over a 45 min period, yet john has stated that when they approached it simply lifted up through the trees.

regardless of the above, the lighthouse theory is such a crock of sh*t. How anyone could mistake a beam of light that either sweeps through the trees or is just a blip on the horizon (I know this has been disputed ) for a landed object on the forrest floor which has different coloured lights which rises up throguh the trees and shoots off at an incredible rate of speed is beyond me. frankly I would find it very insulting if I was a witness and someone told me it was a lighthouse.

The fireball theory is a load of crock too. Since when does a fireball sit on the forest floor and fly upwards. that would be more incredible than et's in my opinion.

Again im new here so much of this has probably been addressed before.

Chris

[Observer]

Imperium 85

I can see the point your making and it is a viewpoint that many members endorse.

I always try to stay with the first statements made, and later ones that seem to have been embellished over time, treat with suspician.

I have always maintained that what they have told us [forget recent aditions] is their interpretation of what they saw. They have been honest as far as they can even though each has told it from a different perspective and I think what they witnessed was beyond their understanding and was not something they recognised. Maybe, and its a big maybe, this phenonema or technology may be well be known to us today, but we haven't yet made the connection. Try some side ways thinking rather than looking for the obvious all the time, I think there is a simpler explanation than we give it credit for.

Obs

[Imperium_85]

Obs

Again, this has probably been shared before but do you know what John's position is regarding Jim's viewpoint? i.e the supposed code download and the 45 minute window of observation he apparently had?

[Observer]

I'm not too sure of John's position regarding Jim Penniston's recent binary code revelation.

I may be wrong but I think John is not in full agreement, and he just stays with his original statement that all he saw was lights. I have to admire that position, unlike some of the other guys who have changed their story so often that they have lost all credibility.

Obs