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All have in common

Postby John Burroughs » Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:26 pm

What does all of these facilities have in common? Cobra mist which I know was shut down the 2 radar sites Martshelm heath and the BT site? What do they all operate off of? Interesting article http://www.prweb.com/releases/2003/11/prweb89889.htm
“JASORS, Joint Advanced Special Operations Radio
> System
> > is being developed by Harris Corporation. ...is a
> very
> > ambitious, leading-edge technology program, ...Whiles
> JASORS
> > is a near-term SOF, [Special Operations Forces]
> enhancement,
> > SORDAC, [Special Operations Research Development and
> > Acquisition Center], is also investigating long-range
> > (1998-2010) and “far-future” (2011 and beyond)
> weaponry
> > and support equipment. [SORDAC’s director, Army
> Colonel
> > Douglas J.] Richardson said one far-future
> communications
> > system being investigated is “synthetic
> telepathy.” One
> > day, SOF commandos may be capable of communicating
> through
> > thought processes.”
SRA International, Inc. (NYSE: SRX), a leading provider of technology and strategic consulting services and solutions to government organizations and commercial clients, today announced it has been awarded the Special Operations Research, Development and Acquisition Center (SORDAC) Science and Technology task order under the Global Battlestaff and Program Support vehicle from the Department of Defense’s Special Operations Command (SOCOM). The task order is valued at $14.4 million, with a period of performance of five years.

Under the task order, SRA will provide experienced scientists, engineers and project management specialists for programs under the Science and Technology’s purview.

“USSOCOM’s Science and Technology office assesses, develops and manages technologies that address the long-term needs of Special Operations forces (SOF),” said SRA National Security Sector Senior Vice President Jeffrey Rydant. “SRA will provide an innovative approach to science and technology initiatives, ensuring that USSOCOM stays on the cutting edge of emerging technologies that will better support the SOF warrior in the future
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Re: All have in common

Postby John Burroughs » Sat Jun 11, 2011 1:27 am

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Re: All have in common

Postby Observer » Sat Jun 11, 2011 5:23 pm

John

Good stuff but heavy man, that will take some understanding. I knew Zickler was in this RFI up to his neck or at least directly afterwards.

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Re: All have in common

Postby John Burroughs » Sat Jun 11, 2011 6:28 pm

Well
Observer wrote:John

Good stuff but heavy man, that will take some understanding. I knew Zickler was in this RFI up to his neck or at least directly afterwards.

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Well tell me what you know about Zickler
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Re: All have in common

Postby Observer » Sat Jun 11, 2011 6:42 pm

Zickler engineered the UFO cover story.
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Re: All have in common

Postby John Burroughs » Sat Jun 11, 2011 6:52 pm

Interesting based on what evidence and sources and who else was involved?
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Re: All have in common

Postby Observer » Sat Jun 11, 2011 7:20 pm

It was some body that told me Zickler and other people from his dept. were involved, not only in the UFO cover story but your debrief. I have no proof other than that. Maybe you should be asking Zickler. I think it was discussed on the forum some years ago with silvertop or even admin, and if i'm wrong ST & admin, please accept my appologies. I think even a picture of Zickler was published on the forum a long time ago. My memory is very vague on this so please bare with me.

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Postby John Burroughs » Sat Jun 11, 2011 7:28 pm

Observer wrote:It was some body that told me Zickler and other people from his dept. were involved, not only in the UFO cover story but your debrief. I have no proof other than that. Maybe you should be asking Zickler. I think it was discussed on the forum some years ago with silvertop or even admin, and if i'm wrong ST & admin, please accept my appologies. I think even a picture of Zickler was published on the forum a long time ago. My memory is very vague on this so please bare with me.

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It was discussed before! How about telling me what kind of radars were being used and equipment that was at the BT site and Martshelm heath facility including the TS area at Martshelm Heath at the time. Also I believe Admin posted some articles on the Scientist does anybody know what they were working on there???
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Re: All have in common

Postby John Burroughs » Sat Jun 11, 2011 7:32 pm

Cobra Mist was based on the Naval Research Laboratory's experimental MADRE radar, which was able to reliably detect aircraft at ranges up to 2,000 nautical miles (3,700 km) from its base in Chesapeake Bay. With prior setup, MADRE was even able to detect rocket launches at Cape Canaveral, and atomic tests in Nevada.

Through the early part of 1972 testing found a considerable amount of unexpected noise, which appeared as frequency shifting of the signal. This made "targets" appears in all of the filters (high-speed, low-speed, etc.) even when it seemed there was nothing of the sort in that area. For instance, the system would often report missiles being launched no matter where the radar was looking.

A lengthy series of investigations into the source of the noise followed, and in desperation the USAF eventually turned over the testing to a panel headed by SRI. The new team continued testing from January to May 1973, but no convincing explanation was ever found. Internal problems with the equipment were eliminated as a potential source. One particularly interesting finding was that the distortion only occurred over land. Deliberate jamming was not ruled out.

Operating the AN/FPS-95 radar took considerable pre-observation setup. To select a particular region of the sky, six adjacent antennas strings were connected to the electronics using a switch matrix hidden underground at the antenna hub. Using beam steering, the operators would select a 90 degree wide fan-shaped area to investigate. The minimum range was about 500 nmi (930 km) due to the maximum elevation of the beams, while the maximum range was about 2,000 nmi (3,700 km) using one-hop off the ionosphere's F-layer. Ranges between this could be selected by changing the broadcast frequency from 6 to 40 MHz, and "gated" by varying the pulse repetition frequency. Longer ranges were possible under certain conditions by allowing for multi-hop propagation. At high frequencies the active portion would be close to the antenna hub, and it would move out toward the larger dipole elements as the frequency was lowered

In 1988, the Federal Communications Commission conducted a study on the Woodpecker signal. Data analysis showed an inter-pulse period of about 90 ms, a frequency range of 7 to 19 MHz, a bandwidth of 0.02 to 0.8 MHz, and typical transmission time of 7 minutes.

The signal was observed using three repetition rates: 10 Hz, 16 Hz and 20 Hz.
The most common rate was 10 Hz, while the 16 Hz and 20 Hz modes were rather rare.
The pulses transmitted by the woodpecker had a wide bandwidth, typically 40 kHz.
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Re: All have in common

Postby John Burroughs » Sat Jun 11, 2011 7:45 pm

Staff members at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in California are boasting. They just can't say why. It's a secret.

The lab, one of the nation's two centers for designing nuclear weapons, says its 21-member "Project Woodpecker" team got the Intelligence Community Seal Medallion late last year from the CIA and National Security Agency.

It's even got the medallion on display.

But what was Project Woodpecker?

"I really can't say at all what we did," said Raymond Finucane, leader of the project. "We're trying to get it declassified so we can talk …

Part of a washington Post Article Jan 06, 1994 would love to see the whole article..
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Re: All have in common

Postby John Burroughs » Sun Jun 12, 2011 1:15 am

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lidar I didnot know Martelshem Heath had a Airfield. I know it was not active for airplanes but Helo could have came in and out of there..
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Re: All have in common

Postby Ignis Fatuus » Sun Jun 12, 2011 2:14 am

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Re: All have in common

Postby John Burroughs » Sun Jun 12, 2011 4:19 am

Thanks! Wrong project the one I'm talking about was ours working with the British CIA NSA and DIA run. Take a look at RAF Chicksands. And Obsever I'm still waiting on what kind of radars we had at Bawdsey and Watton. Where are all the scientist who were on here earlier I'm sure you would have some Idea on what I have been putting out here latley.
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Re: All have in common

Postby Ignis Fatuus » Sun Jun 12, 2011 5:28 am

Target specific to you and Jim? Cabansag didn't seem all that confused by the end of the shift.
Maybe you detected a disturbance in the Force. The Force being the Ionosphere, the disturbance being the Fireball.

Hey can you help clarify a piece of the timeline for me? I'm still a bit fuzzy on how you came to be involved with Halt's expedition. You said on a podcast once that you had a feeling that the thing was back. Is that correct?
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Re: All have in common

Postby John Burroughs » Sun Jun 12, 2011 7:13 am

http://www.bombshock.com/weapons_combat ... part-6.htm

So lets see the Russian were working on this in 1979 I bet we were to. Guess what company was leading that work! Marconi who worked out of Martlesham Heath who was also working on SDI. Ignis I have explained that before. I set up this thread to show the research I have been working on which may tie into what happened to us. I not trying to screw up anybody elses statements or threads or draw attention away from them. If you would like to read along fine if you want to make fun or pick on somthing do it on another thread. I'm trying to show real research behind what I feel could have happened to us..
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/scala ... war02b.htm
http://www.bombshock.com/weapons_combat ... part-6.htm
Hopefully this will open now. Guess who also worked with the marconi company GE aerospace ring a bell !! There are post from people who claim they were scientist. It was not the shuttle.
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Re: All have in common

Postby Observer » Sun Jun 12, 2011 7:25 am

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I have to go to bed some time to sleep, be patient.

RAF Watton and RAF Neatishead in Norfolk were part of Eastern Air Defence radar. I don't know what 'type' of radar it was other than it was air defence and nothing more sinister than that. RAF Bawdsey just down the coast from Woody was also part of Eastern radar but it was also an experimental base for new types of radar [parts are open now as a museum] one in particular being the Marconi 3-D Doppler.
Also some body mentioned the space shuttle having a training model or similar at RAF Woodbridge. I have had a reply back from my ARRS pal who said all we had was the training capsule [Apollo] and an F-111 cockpit pod.
Our PJ's trained to rescue crew who may have ditched in the sea [We did that a few times with the A-10's] and that included the shuttle crew. Because RAF Woodbridge was a NASA designated emergency landing strip for the shuttle, we and the fire department trained for any mishaps on landing.

You mentioned some scientists who used to be on the forum, who do you mean?

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Re: All have in common

Postby Observer » Sun Jun 12, 2011 7:35 am

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As far as I know, the BT research laboritory in the Adastral science Park on Martlesham Heath [old WW-2 fighter station and now a housing estate] were just working on comms R+D, which inluded Microwave comms, fibre optic comms, SAT comms and other stuff that was classified. I have no more chance than you of finding out what that was. My mother knew the wives of some of the scientists who worked there and even the wives were not told anything by their husbands. Wikipedia may be your best option.
Marconi were only there because of the microwave research.
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Re: All have in common

Postby John Burroughs » Sun Jun 12, 2011 7:45 am

Observer I have to crash. Goggle in BT site Martlesham Heath the complex was built in the 70's its still there today bigger than ever. Those Sat dishes you saw in the pictures that were posted where there in 1980 there used to track and communicate with Sat. They worked on SDI there plus there is a airfield located there. They also worked on EM and were tied into Raf Bawdsey. Also down the road not very far was Raf Chicksands which housed the DIA and worked with British intel and guess what they did have a underground facility.. And never forget the NSA had a facility located where Cobra mist was before it closed.. EM and EM weapons is the most highly classified information within the Dod today..
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Re: All have in common

Postby Observer » Sun Jun 12, 2011 3:30 pm

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RAF Chicksands was a dual occupation base, RAF/USAF. It was a Security Service Base for the US government and it housed the Air Intel Agency. It is over 50 miles from Woody. They probably had a command bunker. The USAF got out in the late 90's and it remains in the MoD as a strategic intel site.

Cobra Mist had an underground telecomms cable connection to the BT site on Martlesham Heath. [Don't forget, Cobra Mist got closed down and dismantled by 77, so don't go blaming that for the RFI] because they had a 'noise' problem they never got to the bottom of. Some say the Russians were trying to jam it but that was never confirmed or denied. It was a very weird way they closed it, They just announced one day to all the staff, we are closed you are all out of work. The staff were so pissed off with this sudden anouncement, they staged a sit in, in protest at the base for several days. The USAF gave in and many engineers and scientists were given other jobs at RAF Bentwaters, Woodbridge and other bases. This story can be found in the East Anglian Daily Times archives.
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