Satellites and lasers

[robert]

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB190/index.htm
The Vela Incident
Nuclear Test or Meteoroid?

Documents Show Significant Disagreement with Presidential Panel Concerning Cause of September 22, 1979 Vela "Double-Flash" Detection

National Security Archive Electronic Briefing Book No. 190

Definite proof of Military satellites (VELA 5B) looking for nuclear detonations.1979.

Does this look like anyone's downed satellite?


Also

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB36/index.html

RE Salt talks ,ABMs and Laser ABMs. 1971.
With its unflattering references to Henry Kissinger, this "nodis" message would have made him apoplectic. It describes the debate over the zero ABM proposal at a meeting of the NSC's Verification Panel. Not mentioning that he had authorized Smith to bring up an ABM ban with Semenov and probably not interested in confronting the Joint Chiefs (who opposed a ban), Kissinger structured the discussion in order to build a consensus against it. As Raymond Garthoff suggests, apparently Kissinger did not believe that the Soviets were serious about a ban because Ambassador Dobrynin had not aired the issue during their secret back-channel conversations. In any event, Kissinger does not discuss the zero ABM proposal in White House Years, so more needs to be learned about his thinking about the issue.

Only ACDA official Philip Farley supported tabling an ABM ban in Helsinki; others at the meeting, including Deputy Secretary of State John Irwin, CIA Director Richard Helms, Deputy Secretary of Defense David Packard, and the well-known strategic expert Attorney General John Mitchell, supported Kissinger.16 Also under discussion was a discussion of whether an ABM agreement would include a ban "exotic" high-tech ABMs (e.g., laser weapons). A few days later, Nixon authorized the SALT delegation to seek such a ban.


Comment.
Nothing particularly startling here other than the mention of a ban on ABM lasers in 1971! and the obvious ban on ABMs in general which would have put any development on new ABM weapons on a black ops list for sure.

Obviously in view of the above treaty a clandestine ELF EM program that involved no visible test launches of ABMs would have been advantageous after the '71 agreement and of course difficult to prove if used as a 'unseen' and 'untrackable' ABM weapon.

Robert

[John Burroughs]

I want to bring somthing up about why Bentwaters was handled the way it was. I feel it was not what was brought down but how it was brought down. Once you throw out into the public domain that we have somthing like that it over. 2 people that were all over me were Chuck Decaro and Curt Brubaker both Tech guys. look at what Decaro company does now and it happens to be a government contract. Brubaker was involved with lazers and such he also was involved with the building of the leer jet and it seemed to me was never looking at UFO but the Tech involved...

[Observer]

ST
Very interesting, more to the point, i wonder if Maggie said "You cant tell the Russians" and GB changed it to 'people'. Sadly, we can't ask her.
Obs

[robert]

Funny stuff chaps.

Why don't we ask Jimmy Carter. He's still alive isn't he?

Robert

[time4truth]

Not sure where to post this but... hav been reading up on Project Bluebeam!! IS ALL THIS TRUE? And HAARP in Alaska? Could Rendlesham hav been experimental forerunner? jus a thought...

[AdrianF]

time4truth

There is a lot of wacko stuff out there on HAARP, but some of it is more than just speculation and conspiracy theories. This article is a little less out there,
http://www.theecologist.org/pages/archive_detail.asp?content_id=1215

This is one is definitely on the fringe but contains some interesting similarities to what was witnessed at Rendlesham

http://itwillpass.com/nwo_weather_altering.shtml

How this relates to Rendlesham though I don't know, when all the evidence suggests that Cobra Mist shut down in 1973.

Relating to this thread, a UN treaty on Environmental weapons was passed through in 1978
Convention on the Prohibition of Military or Any Other Hostile Use of Environmental Modification Techniques ( google it )
One excerpt is interestingly worded
With regard to peaceful uses of environmental modification techniques, the convention provides that the parties shall have the right to participate in the fullest possible exchange of scientific and technological information

Adrian

[Observer]

Re Cobra Mist

Its fact it shut down in 73 as i saw the masts being dismantled. Most went for scrap.
If Cobra Mist was still up and running in 1980, it may have been one place to point the finger, but it wasn't.

Obs

[time4truth]

Adrian thanks 4 your reply. im going to do some reading!

[time4truth]

After reading up on HAARP and Russian equivalent i must admit all this WAY ADVANCED technology is SCARY.As i say im def no scientist but try my best to understand...but WHOOO!!!

[Observer]

Do you guys honestly believe that all this high tech stuff was the cause of the RFI?

Its way simpler than that.

Obs

[pupil88]

http://news.aol.com/article/britain-rel ... 1200735375