UFO free speech for all & RFI talk September 10 2011

[John Burroughs]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_spectrum

[John Burroughs]

http://drdavidclarke.co.uk/spooklights/ ... le-lights/
http://www.theufochronicles.com/2006/09 ... ights.html

[John Burroughs]

John, in which direction do the high tension power lines go on Capel green?
See the link below (check the circle areas).
Do the lines go through the finger of trees?

http://tinyurl.com/64n8luz

Hi John the power lines were aprox 7 metres overhead ... plus the Natural EM field tri-field that I use is specifically designed to filter out 50/60 hz mains and other manmade EM noise ... so no chance of the power lines affecting the readings

[John Burroughs]

. US government claims electromagnetic radiation (emr) mind control weapons are classified.
U.S. News and World Report, July 7, 1997, Wonder Weapons" page 38;

National security: why the public is in the dark about electromagnetic weapons
The Washington Post article by George Lardner, 4-27, 5-3-92, page 34

Electromagnetic weapons: more powerful than the atomic bomb, scientists say
May 22, 1988 by Barton Reppert Associated Press Writer, Washington AP, entitled Looking at the Moscow Signal, the Zapping of an Embassy 35 years later, The Mystery Lingers
New York Times, Dec. 29, 1965 p.28 covered speakers at an American Association for the Advancement of Science meeting. Entitled "Controlling the Mind", Professor David Krech of the University of California

The Guardian "The Future Art of War", May 25, 1995. Nic Lewer, peace researcher at the University of Bradford

b. Gorbachev concerns never reach U.S. mainstream press
1986 Press Conference on Gorbachev's Nuclear Arms Elimination Proposals. BBC "Weapons based on new physical principles would include, ... beam, radio-wave, infrasonic, geophysical and genetic weapons. In their strike characteristics these types of weapons might be no less dangerous than mass strike weapons. The Soviet Union considers it necessary to establish a ban on the development of arms of this kind."
c. U.S. wins electromagnetic arms race
Defense News, Jan.11-17, 1993 U.S. Explores Russian Mind-Control Technology by Barbara Opall
III. A serious public issue: Control of your mind is a classified military capability
a. Electromagnetic weapons: concerns and warnings by human rights experts
British Medical Journal Vol. 315, 7-12-97 page 78. Robin M. Coupland, Surgeon, International Committee of the Red Cross
Bulletin of Atomic Scientists, Dr. Barbara Hatch Rosenberg Sept/Oct 1994, page 45

. International Defense Review, 3-1-1993, Special Operations Survives Pentagon budget Constraints, by Ramon Lopez.

“JASORS, Joint Advanced Special Operations Radio System is being developed by Harris Corporation. ...is a very ambitious, leading-edge technology program, ...Whiles JASORS is a near-term SOF, [Special Operations Forces] enhancement, SORDAC, [Special Operations Research Development and Acquisition Center], is also investigating long-range (1998-2010) and “far-future” (2011 and beyond) weaponry and support equipment. [SORDAC’s director, Army Colonel Douglas J.] Richardson said one far-future communications system being investigated is “synthetic telepathy.” One day, SOF commandos may be capable of communicating through thought processes.” Malcom Zickler went to special ops after Bentwaters

[John Burroughs]

Margo Cherney FOIA request for complete NASA abstract Report Number: AD-A090426, June 1, 1980. Response from Brooks Air Force Base, Jan.25, 2000: The requested information is fully denied under 5 U.S.C. 552(b)(1)... NASA abstract in part stated,

“A decoy and deception concept presently being considered is to remotely create the perception of noise in the heads of personnel by exposing them to low power, pulsed microwave. When people are illuminated with properly modulated low power microwaves the sensation is reported as a buzzing, clicking, or hissing which seems to originate (regardless of the person’s position in the field) within or just behind the head. The phenomena occurs at average power densities as low as microwatts per square centimeter with carrier frequencies from 0.4 to 3.0 GHz. [within frequency range of 400 MegaHertz (MHz) to 3 GigaHertz] By proper choice of pulse characteristics, intelligible speech may be created. Before this technique may be extended and used for military applications, an understanding of the basic principles must be developed. Such an understanding is not only required to optimize the use of the concept for camouflage, decoy and deception operations but is required to properly assess safety factors of such microwave exposure.” Note June 1st 1980

CNN TV: A demonstration by Dr. Elizabeth Rauscher and Dr. William van Bise, directed magnetic signals into the brain of reporter Chuck DeCaro. They created visual images as in a hallucination. This program also features Dr. Robert O. Becker, two time Nobel prize nominee, scientist and researcher of electromagnetic radiation effects on the body and author of Body Electric, summarized, “The government has never disproved the psychological effects of electromagnetic radiation. ”Dr. Robert Becker commented “that this is a substantial step forward in the understanding how the visual system works” and would be a powerful weapon if used on fighter pilots while trying to fly."

[tpreitzel]

For directed EM devices to be a potential explanation for the events at RF, any such hallucinations derived from their use would likely extend to ALL objects in the sensory (not merely visual) field, not a specific type, e.g. lights in the sky. Naturally, the targeted human would have to be VERY aware of ALL his senses during the event to accurately record ALL such hallucinations, i.e. distortions of his "normal" conscious state. Fundamentally, any such discussion will inevitably delve into the role of humanity's sensory system on human consciousness. It's an old, OLD discussion, too, as humanity has been hallucinating since it's advent and long before the advent of directed EM devices.

[tpreitzel]

For directed EM devices to be a potential explanation for the events at RF, any such hallucinations derived from their use would likely extend to ALL objects in the sensory (not merely visual) field, not a specific type, e.g. lights in the sky. Naturally, the targeted human would have to be VERY aware of ALL his senses during the event to accurately record ALL such hallucinations, i.e. distortions of his "normal" conscious state. Fundamentally, any such discussion will inevitably delve into the role of humanity's sensory system on human consciousness. It's an old, OLD discussion, too, as humanity has been hallucinating since it's advent and long before the advent of directed EM devices.

In addition, one would expect distortions within each specific sensor as well, e.g. distortions within the visual field probably wouldn't end merely with lights in the sky. One would expect distortions throughout the visual field including common objects of the forest itself, coworkers, etc. This limited view of the potential effects of EM distortion doesn't even address the question of interactivity with an alleged hallucination.

[Observer]

Just look at the evidence

Jim Penniston and several others said the atmosphere in the forest was very electrostatic and it made their hair stand up, he also said they heard a humming/crackling sound. Charles Halt said it [whatever 'it' was] had sparks flying off it and looked like dripping molten metal coming off. They also said there was a very bright white light in the forest which had a bluish tint or words to that effect. Argon arc welding in the dark would give that kind of dazzling light or a power line earthing.

This sounds very much like an electrical event where a high voltage power line was shorting to earth [ground] and it was crackling and throwing sparks and molten metal off. I have seen video of this happening.

I have been under power lines in damp weather and they crackle like mad and you feel a tingling on your face from the electrostatic atmosphere.

I don't know how near power lines are to Rendlesham forest but there could be under ground ones that had a problem and of course, there is Sizewell nuclear power station just a few miles up the coast with a huge power line grid spreading out from it.

With the evidence presented so far, I think its worth looking at an electrical event of some kind, either accidental, deliberate, and either military or civilian. One way or another its electrical.

Obs

[Frank]

One way or another its electrical

So we have:
- Jim who saw something that was definitely mechanical and that zig-zagged away through the trees (he even draws a zig-zagging line showing the object’s trajectory).
- John who just saw lights.
- Col. Halt who saw objects with multi-colored lights on them.
- Larry and Adrian who both claim to have seen a fairly large craft sitting on the ground.

John’s thinks what he experienced was caused by EM.
Note that John and Jim also reported that movement was difficult in the vicinity of the phenomenon. EM fields can cause disruptions in a human nervous system (not only the brain) that affect control of your muscles and that can even lead to total (temporary) paralysis.

And now we are looking for the source of these EM fields…

Maybe this gives a clue?
http://www.majesticdocuments.com/pdf/nicap-electromagneticeffects_june60.pdf

Or more recent papers:
http://www.nicap.org/papers/92apsiee.htm
http://www.ufocasebook.com/pdf/ufoeffects.pdf

Quote from the last paper: “All observed effects of UFOs, except purely mechanical processes and artifacts, carry implications of
electromagnetic and gravitational fields in their vicinity.”

[Observer]

John

One thing no body has ever asked you guys. Do you remember any kind of unusual smell in the forest?
I'm thinking of the electric arc smell.

Obs

[bignos]

i was about to ask that very same question, people talk about senses but noone has mentioned smell. I work with electricity and it does smell, sort of! i also fly a parachute with an engine on my back and you get an ozone smell when up high, its very similar to electric. Sniff some ozone (on a hot tub or similar) and see if it brings back any memories, smell is a powerful memory stimulant

[tpreitzel]

Of course, the RFI contains an electrical aspect as EVERYTHING on earth is electrified to one degree or another. However, this observation doesn't mean the RFI was a mass hallucination due to directed EM devices... not by a LONG shot. Again, the real question eventually delves into a discussion of human consciousness. For example, is our normal conscious state a type of hallucination? When these objects manifested themselves to humanity's sensory system, they possessed electrical characteristics just by doing so. It's good to see others finally look into investigating ALL sensory data from the witnesses, though, as far as memories of the witnesses can recollect decades later.

[Observer]

Bignos

620v DC on the London underground can give you that DC arc smell when the pickup slippers go over a rail joint.

I also remember getting the same sort of smell and a loud 'crack' from an accidental earthing of a car battery lead to chassis, makes you jump.
All memories as you said that can remind you of events in your life.

I'm just wondering why people are ignoring the evidence as stated by our witnesses, the sparks flying off, the dripping molten metal, the humming/buzzing/crackling noise, the blinding white/bluish light. Do you know what and I don't mean to be flippent, but that all sounds like some bloke doing some argon arc or plasma cutting in the forest at night. That would give a spectacular light show not too dissimilar to what we have been told.

Obs

[Shearwater]

Larry

Absolutely brilliant, you luck sod. I play myself but mostly vintage Rock.
Thats what the RFI needs is a good Rock band to play in the woods.

Cheers
Obs

Just to confirm how ancient I am: I still play my pre-CBS Strat in a rock covers band. We have a spooky amount in common 'Observer'!

[Observer]

I have a Hank Marvin signature Strat, a 57 reissue and a 62 reissue, plus I run a guitar club in Watford.

Obs

[Shearwater]

Well there you go: I'm a vocalist too, so we just need a drummer and we can jam in September!

[Wolf]

I somehow don't think a lack of guitars would be a problem....

Wolf

I've got such a big Marshall I can tear a hole in Time - Jeremy Wolfson

[Shearwater]

I somehow don't think a lack of guitars would be a problem....

Wolf

I've got such a big Marshall I can tear a hole in Time - Jeremy Wolfson

I've got two corny old Fender valve amps: a twin reverb and a super sixty.... but I love 'em!

[IanR]

Ian Ridpath on Ukulele. "Hi Ian!"

And Brenda Butler on Yeti call.

[Gordy]

We also have David Bryant with us to give a talk on UFO's and the Appollo missions. David has talked extensively on this and other subjects including UFO's and has appeared with at conferences and interviewed many of the Appollo and Space Shuttle astronauts.