It must have been ET

General discussion about the Rendlesham forest incident

Re: It must have been ET

Postby Observer » Tue Nov 02, 2010 4:51 pm

John

Actually, it was the wife of one of the 67th Sgts [now deceased] who contacted me via a friend in Woodbridge. I really don't want to involve her, but she said you guys should be carefull what you say in public. She also said that the incident at Hollaman AFB was similar in nature to the RFI and was witnessed by many Officers, NCO's and enlisted men, much more than Rendlesham, but its hardly attracted the publics attention like the RFI has, why.
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Re: It must have been ET

Postby John Burroughs » Tue Nov 02, 2010 5:10 pm

I believe she might be talking about the Kirkland incident that happened right before us which does happen to be the Pararescue headquarters! It also involved the weapons storage area! There was never a memo released and there was not anybody like Warren pushing it! It did get a lot of attention after it happened Linda Howe and Robert Hastings did do a report about it! And how would the people who you said were involved at Bentwaters have been involved there also! It was only a month apart! And as always its somebody who won't step foreword and answer questions! And if it was not Kirkland then please show me a story on the incident at Hollaman! Silvertop can you post the story about Kirkland? And what was her reason for us being careful about what we have to say! We have never brought the Pararescue squadron into this only they have! Now if there was some kind of special operation going on that would be a whole different story!
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Re: It must have been ET

Postby puddlepirate » Tue Nov 02, 2010 5:37 pm

John

No need to be sorry. It is not a question of having a closed mind, I don't. However, in the intial stages (and I've been researching the RFI for sevaral years now) my research was guided by statements made by those who were there, primarily yourself, Jim P, Larry W and Col Halt. It was my understanding that at least one of you guys categorically stated that although whatever you witnessed could not be identified, it was mechanical in nature and under intelligent control but it was NOT ET. Given it has been stated many times that you guys in the SP/LW are trained professionals, with high security clearnces, irrefutable honour and integrity etc, skilled in observation, making notes, conducting investigations and so on, it seemed somewhat foolish not to believe what you guys said. However, as my research progressed it became very clear indeed that there was much more to the RFI than you guys seeing odd lights from the back gate of RAF Woodbridge. That was only the start.

However, if you are now saying it was an alien craft of some sort then no sensible researcher can take this any further because there is absolutely no EVIDENCE to support that - no photographs, no confirmed radar contacts, no fighters were scrambled to intercept, no independent witnesses from the local population have ever come forward, nothing was reported to the local police by others in the area - not even by those living close by the farmer's field. Apparently the base PR unit was not inundated with calls from concerned local citizens or the local press seeking a story. In other words, there is absolutely nothing at all to go on that would indicate an extra terrestrial. This was a closed event, kept quiet for approximately 3 years that even the MoD dismissed as being of no consequence.

The mystery is not what you, JP and C saw. Nor is it what Halt recorded on his tape. The real mystery is what the USAF was looking for that required a sizeable squad to go off base from RAF Bentwaters into a Suffolk forest in the middle of the night over the Christmas holiday, equipped with lightalls and gawd knows what else. They did not do that to look for ET and they most certainly did not need lightalls to search for odd lights. Never mind asking Observer to get the 67th to come out in the open to tell what they know, I think it's about time you guys did.
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Re: It must have been ET

Postby John Burroughs » Tue Nov 02, 2010 6:10 pm

First of all and we have gone through this before there were local people who did report seeing things! Second of all the lightalls were used to light up the area where we had been the night before!As far as the 67th goes if they have something to say they should step foreword so they can be question like we have! Show up on the 28th Puddle we promise not to let you down and what better back drop than to talk about it where the incident took place! Observer have your buddy from the 67th show up and show everybody how they did it! I just don't get why your having so much problem with us going back to where it happened and going over what we know and the time line! Ian the same way and its interesting were willing to meet you face to face to talk about it also!
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Re: It must have been ET

Postby ncf1 » Tue Nov 02, 2010 6:16 pm

With regards to those that say ah why did ET come in the night, why didnt they land at the White house, why this why that. It is utterly futile and not to mention staggeringly arrogant to even suggest anything of the kind whatsoever - how is it even possible to fathom what their intentions are, why they would act in the manner they do, what time they appear, etc? Why *should* it be the way one thinks it must be? In fact most things turn out to be the complete opposite, or wildly different to "popular" theories, it has always been that way. Why did it land in a forest at night - my question would rather be how could you possibly know their intentions? How? If they come from another dimension, outer space, who knows where, how could anyone know why they would do what they do? Do they stuff up sometimes, or is everything to plan, how do we know? All we have is witness testimony and a whole lot of speculators who really have no idea whatsoever what they are talking about pontificating to their hearts content and making things even more difficult.
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Re: It must have been ET

Postby Observer » Tue Nov 02, 2010 6:32 pm

I have no problem with you all going back to Rendlesham for a re union, I wish you all a very useful and sucessful meeting and I hope some answers come up. I'm not sure I can make it as I have other plans for those dates plus I can't drive long distance just yet.

Reading the very first statements that you all put out, only lights are mentioned,, even Halt's memo just talks about lights. it was subsequent statements where objects and other things were talked about. If the 67th had pulled a black op over those nights, their methodology would be highly classified, so I doubt any one would come forward publicly.
Sorry John I meant to say Kirkland AFB, but its rather ironic that the RFI and Kirkland happened where the 67th were based. The 67th are in this some where, you can bet on it.

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Re: It must have been ET

Postby John Burroughs » Tue Nov 02, 2010 6:51 pm

Not totally true take a look at Lt Buren statement on what Penniston reported to him! And except for what Penniston has talked about that's all we have stated! The difference is that they were flying around doing things that can't be explained!Beaming down lights to the ground! Not something being carried by a Helo or a hang glider or a flying lighthouse! And then theirs the Halt tape here he comes from the south he moving right at us there is 2 to the North moving out fast now there is a beam of light coming down from it at our feet this is unreal! That coming from a air combat controller who directed planes in Vietnam!
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Re: It must have been ET

Postby puddlepirate » Tue Nov 02, 2010 7:02 pm

John

Happy to meet you guys on the 28th. Just keep me posted re time etc
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Re: It must have been ET

Postby John Burroughs » Tue Nov 02, 2010 7:15 pm

Great will update you when we get closer look forword to meeting you!
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Re: It must have been ET

Postby alive555 » Sat Nov 06, 2010 5:00 pm

thanks for everyones replies .

I have a second follow up question.

who if anyone saw any et entity or better call it alien being ? anyone if so what description was made ?
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