Halt tape transcript - July 2010 - by Stephan K. (Germany)

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Halt tape transcript - July 2010 - by Stephan K. (Germany)

Postby stephan » Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:49 pm

I've spent the last couple of days to make another analysis of the Halt tape. For comparison and to save some time I've consulted Ian Ridpath's version. I've assumed the names he has indicated. I can confirm most of his transcript. However, there are a few additions and changes. My transcript even contains some ''surprises''. So here we go again:

abbreviations: H= Halt, E= Englund, B= Ball, N= Nevels, V=voice, bg= background/ radio communication; comments in brackets

H: 150 feet or more from the initial, I should say, suspected impact point
V: right
H: having difficulty to get the light-all to work, seems to be some kind of mecanical problem. I think about getting another light-all. Meantime, over, take some readings with the Geiger counter and er, chase around the areal but wait for the light-all to mark it.

bg: six ... Sgt. ...ning to security control ... that's [knocking sound] mark one on the pod ... pod number [chair moving sound]

H: ok, we are now approaching the area within about 25/30 feet, what kind of readings, we get anything ?
N: just minor clicks
H: minor clicks

bg: [seems to be in a room] ... to the last hour ? Here? Yeah.]

H: where are the impressions ?
V: there's one...
H: is that all of debris we have?
E: well, there's one more well-defined over ...

bg: Sgt. Bustinza to security control

H: we are still getting clicks. clicks.

bg: Sgt. Bustinza ... [name mentioned ?] here ... security ... worrying[?] ... east gate

H: you want to read that on the scale ?
N: yes, sir, but now on the 5/ 10th scale and we are reading about, er, four Becquerel
H: ok we are still comfortable good safe here

bg: don't have a light-all ... for take three ... east gate ... security ... can't you hear me Sgt. Bustinza

H: still minor readings

[now here's a passage where two voices (one is Halt) seem to speak at the same time, I've put these voices over each other:]

v: never one ... will care ... about orientation
H: second ... pod ... of the indentations

bg: security states security

N: nope.
H: this one is dead. Let's go to the third one over here.

bg: Sgt. Bustinza

N: yes, now getting some residual
H: I can read out. The meter is definitely giving a little, pulse.

bg: you have the order ... electronic [or: Leary to Harvey?]

E: ... about the centre
H: that's what I was gonna say, let's go to the center of the area next to see what kind of reading we get out there

bg: cigarette [two knocking sounds]

H: you're reading the clicks, I can't get the clicks
V: yes, sure I do
H: now about the center, Bruce ?
N: yes
H: ok, let's go to the center, here
N: yes, I'm getting more
H: that's, that's supposed to ... best deflection [of the] needle I've seen yet. Ok, can you give me an estimation, we're on the point five scale ... we're getting ... we are having trouble reading the scale
E: at, er, approximately 01:25 hours

bg: [sound]

N: I'm getting right at, er, half a millirem

bg: [piano sound]

H[?]: best point
H: I don't see any, go any higher
V: the list won't fly around
H: ok, we'll go out toward it ... there
N: now it's picking up
H: this is out toward the number one indentation where we first got the strongest reading. Yeah, it's similar to what we got in the center.
N: right in the pod, it's right near the center
E: it's right in the area, here approximately, it could be a clash

[again two voices over each other, E + H:]

E: it's in the center of the triangle
H: it's hard to tell. Here, gonna take this, my fingers are about to freeze
V: here's to
E: up towards seven
H: what ?
E: just jumped to about towards 7/10th
H: seven tenths? right here in the center ?
V: that's right
H: we found a small blast what looks like a blasted or scuffed up area here. We get pretty positive readings. [Let's] see, is that epicenter ?
E: yes, it is. This is where we would assume would be the dead center.
N: it's picking up more as you go along the whole area here now.
H: Up to seven tenths ? Or seven [bg: five], seven units, let's call it on the point five scale. Ok, why don't we do this. Why don't we make a sweep. Here, got the gloves on here. Let's take a sweep out around the whole area about ten foot out. Make a perimeter run around it, starting right back here at the corner, back the same first corner where we came in, let's go right back here. Don't let depend them on you counting the clicks.
N[?]: right
H: okay let's
N: it's ditzy here to get kind of
H: right, put the light on it. Let's sweep around it.
V: whose light ?
H: put it on the ground every once in a while
E: this looks like an abrasion on the tree
H: ok, we'll catch that on the way back, let's go around, move back, hit it then
E: and there in the entrance right over here. It looks like an abrasion, pointing into the center of the ...
H: it is
E: landing area
H: it may be old though, there's some sap marks or something on it. Let's go on back around. Anything ?
N: these were the gifts, some extension on it
H: hey, this is an awkward thing to use isn't it ?
V: all this here, carry don't much it [wrong grammar ?] on my ears but this one broke
H: are we getting anything further, I'm goint to shut the recorder off until we find something
N: picking up good
H: picking up? what are we up to ? We're up to two, three units deflection, you're getting in close to one pod.
N: picking up something. picking up.
H: ok, it's still not going above three or four units
N: picking up more though, more frequent
H: yes, your status, you you stay steady up around two to three to four units now.
E: Colonel Halt?
H: Yeah

bg: laughing [?]

E: each one of these trees that face into the blast what we assume is the landing site, all have an abrasion facing in the same direction towards the center. The same...
H: let's see it
E: it likely was , it's obviously [or: still less around] the circle here, turn it back down here

bg: let me in

N: picking up some
V: correction
H: let me see that... that's got a funny, that's, that's, you worry about the abrasion. I've never, never seen a tree that's, er,
V: ... small sap marks
H: never seen a pine tree that's been damaged react that fast
N: got a bottle to put that in
H: yeah, yes, sample bottle
V: ... soil
H: yeah, here's such a sample ... ok, from now on let's let's let's let's indentify that as point number one, that stake there. So you all know where it is if we have to sketch it. You got that Sgt. Nevels?
N: yes, sir.
V: of course ...
H: ok
v: ... didn't work earlier
H: closest to the Woodbridge base
V: point one?
H: be it point one. Let's go clockwise from there
V: point two
H: point two. So this tree is between point two and point three

bg: about an hour between Burroughs and two other personnel requesting to Sgt. Ball in jeep at your location

B: tell'em negative at this time. We'll tell them when they can come out here. We don't want them out here right now.
H: the sample, you're gonna mark this sample number one.
N: yes, sir
H: have them cut it off and include some of that sample ... is between indentation two and three on a pine tree about, er, about five feet away, about three and a half feet off the ground.
N: I've got some more for the bottle
H: there's a round abrasion on the tree about three and a half, four inches in diameter. It looks like it might be old but, er, ..., strange, there's a crystalline pine sap that has come out that fast. You say there was other trees here that are damaged in a similar fashion ?
E: yes, so often they've gotten in this wood they set out a landing, sir.
H: ok, why don't you take a picture of that and remember your picture, we ain't gonna be writing this down, oh it's coming on the tape.
E: you've got a tape measure with you, sir?
H: this is the picture, your first picture will be at the first tree. The one between, er, mark two and three. Meantime I'm gonna walk a couple of these trees over here.
N: we are getting some...
H: you're getting readings on the tree you're taking samples from on the side facing the suspected landing site.
N: four clicks max.
H: up to four. Interesting, that's where you are taking the sample now. Four, that's the strongest point on the tree ?
N: yes, sir. If you come to the back, there's no clicks wahtsoever.
H: no clicks at all on the back, it's all on the ...
N: maybe one or two
H: ... side facing the ... interesting. The indentations look like something twisted it as it got ... you know as it sat down on'em. Looks if someone took something and slided down and twisted it from side to side.
V: uh huh.
H: very strange. ... We are looking at the same tree we took the sample of with this ... what ya call it - starscope ?
E: uh huh, starlight scope.
H: get a definite heat reflection off the tree about three or four feet off the ground ?
E: yes, where the spot is
H: the same ... the same place where the spot is we are getting a heat ...
B: and a spot on the tree directly behind us, I picked up the the same thing, and one off to your right.
H: three trees in the area, immediately adjacent to the site within 10 feet of the suspected landing site, we are picking up heat deflection off the trees.
E: seems like Bob and I [tape break]
H: What's that again ?
E: well, shine the light on again, Bob
H: we are, can we hear you ?
V: yeah
E: get right on the spot...
H: ok turn the light on
E: ... and then when you worm to my right you'll notice the white [sounds more like ''whike'']
H: hey ... you're right, there's another white streak on the tree
E: indicates a heat
H: let me turn around to this tree over here now. This second, watch 'coz you're direct on the tree. I can see it. All right, give me a little side light so I can find the tree. Ok, off.

bg: alpha two to security

H: I have lost the tree

bg: five

H: ok, stop, stop. Light off. Hey this is eerie.
V: why don't you do the pod spots, then the center ?
H: this is strange. Here, someone wanna look at the spots on the ground? Whoops, watch you won't step or walk on ...

bg: car going along, hooting

V: there's one step
H: okay, it's it's, step back, not walk all over it. Come back here, somebody put a beam on'em, we got to be back ten or fifteen feet. You see it?
V: yeah, ok fine
H: ok, lights off

bg: [TV voice?] he took this long to docu

H: What d'you think about the spot ?
V: wait
H: yeah
V: what's here, first spot?
H: ok, that's what we'd call our spot number three. Let's go to the back corner and get spot number one
V: number one
H: spot humber one, here's spot number one, right here. Spot number one right here. Do you need some light, there it is, right there. Focused ?
V: focused
H: ok, looking at spot number one through the starlight scope
V: pick up a slight increase in light when they go over it
H: slight increase in light at spot number one. Let's go up to spot number two. Spot number two is right over here. Right here. See it ?
V: we need a spot in spot on [?]
H: ok, get focused on it. Tell me when...
V: we got in
H: ok, lights off, let's see we get on it
V: slight increase
H: just a slight increase ?
V: try the center
H: the center spot ... well, where would you be is the center, it's slightly off centered. Try it there.
V: right here
V: let's mark that as the center
H: ok, we're gonna get your reading on it right there
V: ok
H: tell me when you're ready
V: ready
H: ok, lights out. It is the center spot we're looking at now, or almost the center.
V: slight increase
H: slight increase there? This is slightly off centre toward the, er, one-two side. It's some type of an abrasion or something any round where the pine needles are all pushed back, all. We get a high radiact, er, a high reading about, the deflection of the two to three, maybe four depending on the point of it.
V: wanna check it?
E: yes
H: you say there's a positive after-effect ?
E: yes, there is, definitely. That's on the center spot. There's an after-effect.
N: what does that mean?
E: it means when the lights are turned off once we are focused in, allow time for the eyes to adjust, we are getting an indication of a heat source coming out of that center spot, as, er, which will show up on the ...
H: heat is some form of energy. It's hardly heat at this stage of the game
V: it is
H: looking directly overhead one can see an opening in the trees plus some freshly, er, broken pine branches on the ground underneath. Looks like someone came off about 15 to 20 feet up. Some smaller branches about an inch or less in diameter. ... 01:48, we are hearing very strange sounds out of the farmer's barnyard animals. There's ...
V: 28..7
H: very very active, make an awful lot of noise
V: ... yes, in a fragmentation
H: you saw a light out there ...
V: yeah
H: ... by a guy's [?] barnhut, where?
E: right at this position here. Straight ahead, in between the tree... there it is again. Watch straight ahead off my flashlight there, sir. There it is
H: I see it, too. What is it?
V: we don't know, sir

bg: shall we get the tigers on ... four, five

H: that's a strange, small, red light. Looks we are maybe a quarter to a half mile, maybe further out. I switch off. ... The light is gone now. It was approximately 120 degrees from the site
V: there, it's back
H: is it back again?
V: yes, sir
H: well, douse flashlights then. Let's go back to the edge of the clearing, so I get a better look at it. See if we can get the starscope on it. The light is still there and all the barnyard animals have gotten quiet now. Yeah, we are heading about 110/120 degrees from the site out through to the clearing now, still getting a reading on the meter. About two clicks. Needle's jumped three to four clicks, getting stronger
V: now it stopped. Now it's coming up, hold on, there we go to about approximately four foot off the ground, at a compass heading of 110 degrees.
H: er, turn the meter off. Let's say that again. About four feet off the ground, about 110 degrees, getting a reading of about four clicks?
V: yes, sir [sneezes] excuse me. Now it's dying.
H: now it's dying. I think it's something other than the ground. I think it's something, it's something very large
V: large reading right on the tree [do both say large ? anyway, I'm sure Halt does]
H: we just bumped the first night-bird we've seen. We are about 150/200 yards from the site.
V: another one
H: every nest is deadly calm. There's no doubt about it, there's some type of strange flashing red light ahead
V: yeah, it's yellow
H: I saw a yellow tinge in it, too. Weird. It, it, it appears to be maybe moving a bit this way ? Yes, it's brighter than has been.
V: yellow
H: it's coming this way ...
V: also
H: it is definitely coming this way
V: it's a bit shooting
H: pieces of it are shooting off
V: at eleven o'clock
H: there's no doubt about it. This is weird!
V: to the left
H: yeah, definitely moving left, two, two lights. Two, one light above, one light to the left. Keep the flashlights off. There's something very, very strange. Get the headset on to see if it gets any stronger.
N: I have
H: ok, give us gives you
N: well in the hard case this is on a beta reading, too
H: hard beta reading?
N: the beta shield has been removed
H: ok. pieces are falling off it again
V: they just moved to the right
H: yeah
V: off to the right
H: strange ... huh ... well, one to the left ? Let's approach, approach to the edge of the woods up there. You want do it without lights? Let's do it carefully, come on ... ok, we are looking at the thing, we're probably about two to three hundred yards away. Looks like an eye winking at you. Still moving from side to side and when you put the starscope on it, it, it's sort of, there's a hollow center, right, a dark center. It's ... I suspect [whispered] ... more like a pupil of an eye looking at you or winking. And the flash is so bright to the starscope that, er, it almost burns your eye. ... we've passed the f. ... passed the farmer's house crossing the next field, now we have mulitple sightings of up to five lights with a similar shape of it. They seem to be steady now rather a pulsating or glow with a red flash ... we just crossed the, the creek
V: it really got strong
H: and, er, we are getting what kind of readings now?
V: clicks
H: getting two, three good clicks on the meter and we are seeing strange lights in the sky ... about 2:44, we are at the far side of the farmer's, the second farmer's field and made sighting again about 110 degrees. This looks like it's clear after the coast, it's right on the horizon. Moves about a bit and flashes from time to time. Still steady or red in color. Also after negative readings in the center of the field we're picking up, er, slight readings, er, four or five clicks now on the meter. ... 3:05, we see strange, er, strobe-like flashes to the ... rather sporadic but there's definitely something there. Some kind of phenomenon. ... 3:05, at about, er, ten degrees, horizon, directly north, we've got two strange objects, er, half-moon in shape, dancing about with colored lights on'em. At, er, guess to be about five or ten miles out, maybe less. The half moons have now turned into full circles as though there was a dilept ... eclipse or something there for a minute or two. ... 03:15, now we've got an object about ten degrees directly south, ten degrees off the horizon
N: to the left
H: and the ones to the north are moving, one's moving away from us
V: moving ... all
N: moving out fast
V: this one on the right it's heading away, too
H: they are both heading north
V: well
H: hey, here, here he comes from the south, he's coming towards us now
V: weird
H: now we're observing what appears to be a beam coming down to the ground ...
V: colors
H: this is unreal ... 3:30 or 03:30, and the objects are still in the sky although the one to the south looks like it's losing a little bit of altitude. We're turning around and heading back toward the base. ... the object to the s, the object to the south is still beaming down lights to the ground. ... 04:00 hours, one object is still hovering over Woodbridge base at about five to ten degrees off the horizon, still moving erratic and similar lights and beaming down as earlier.

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I've come across some interesting passages. Unfortunately I did not mark them while I was writing down the transcript. I've marked one line in red, though. Maybe I'll mark more later.

@ Ian:

I've noticed (of course :wink: ) that the word millirem is mentioned. So even though it does not make much sense that the word Becquerel is mentioned as well it could be possible that they simply mixed up the measuring units.
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Re: Halt tape transcript - July 2010 - by Stephan K. (German

Postby Deep Purple » Thu Jul 08, 2010 8:23 pm

Well done Stephan for this transcript , especially as I would assume english is not your first language--- but the transcript reads perfectly.
This contrasts with Storm's transcript significantly.
I would say to all site members that the Halt tape could have been created at some time after the event and there is no audit trail leading to this item.
For example in the UK in a criminal interview under caution two copies of the tape are made one is sealed and given or retained for the defence and signed to show it has not been tampered with.
As we are dealing with such an unusual event we should hold some reservations about the Halt tape
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Re: Halt tape transcript - July 2010 - by Stephan K. (German

Postby stephan » Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:34 pm

thank you Deep Purple :)

I agree, there are three major possibilities I can think of:

a) the Halt tape is authentic, i.e. they recorded it during the event(s) took place (and I would really like this to be the case)
b) the tape was created after the events
c) the tape was ''invented''

as for b) there could be good reasons, all hypothetical though. Examples:

- to downplay what really took place
- to create a scenario which allows alternative, more earthly explanations (like the lighthouse theory, no disrespect to anyone who came up with it, to some extent I'm even able to relate to that)
- Larry Warren's statement that the Halt memo reads (almost) like his (Larry's) letter to his mother
- political reasons (there are certainly plenty of such. What did M. Thatcher say ? ''you can't tell the people'')
- some characters in the recording act a bit impassive, except for Halt who's highly elated when the actual event (the UFO sighting) takes place, this COULD be an indication that the whole thing was staged

in regard to the last point the different behaviors may be due to the different ranks though. Senior ranks ''decide''. Or for other reasons.

I don't see any reason for c.

I think what is clear is that - even if b) should be correct - all ''participants'' did indeed witness very unusual events back in 1980. The general tone as well as the fact that even after 30 years ALL of them are still seemingly involved in the issue says it all. Also it smoothly joins the many other events of UFO history. There can be no doubt about that IMO.
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Re: Halt tape transcript - July 2010 - by Stephan K. (German

Postby Frank » Fri Jul 09, 2010 10:30 am

What is more interesting is what is NOT on the tape ..

Excerpts from posts by John Burroughs in a thread on this forum (emphasis is mine):
(source: http://www.rendlesham-incident.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=459&start=30)

When I got out there on Sat night there was light alls in a clearing and Halt team was past where we first had our encounter.
(…)
Halt saw something land which is why there are 2 sites. Remember Bustinza was not out there with me on the first night but was with Halt and me on the third night. I was told by Halt when I met up with them that something landed the third night and by Bustinza also.
(…)
He never said what landed just something landed he then pointed up in the sky and showed me the Blue lights that were flying around.
(…)
When I met up with his party everybody was visibly shaken up and stated they just had a unexplainable experience Bustinza was with them.
(…)

Andy: When has Halt ever admitted to seeing anything land and on the ground? Saw beams of light hitting the ground according to him, but to me that is not landing.
John: I have stated that’s what he told me when I met up with him on the 3rd night!


Adrian Bustinza tells his story in an interview by Ray Boeche on April 15, 1984
(Source: http://www.stealthskater.com/Documents/Woodbridge_01.pdf)

We started to search. … One individual had said that he had spotted the object -- like sitting on the ground. We proceeded to look and in the process found kind of like triangular tripods … burned into the [ground] at 3 different standpoints. … They were like it was a heavy object. They took radiation readings of the holes. And they got a radiation reading as I recall. Then I recall that we were walking through the woods and came upon the lights again. And that's when I first saw the object …

We got -- I think it was the flight chief [Sergeant Ball] and I believe another individual officer. We kept searching the area -- kind of like trying to follow the object. And it was moving through the trees. And in the process, we came upon a yellow mist about 2-or-3 feet off the ground. It was like dew, but it was yellow … like nothing I've ever seen before. … We kind of like ignored it. We were worried about the [other] object … to see if we could locate it again or catch up to it again …

We did see the object again. It was hovering low, like moving up-and-down anywhere from 10-to-20 feet -- back up, back down, back up. There was a red light on top and there were several blue lights on the bottom. But there was also like [a prism] … rainbow lights on top [and] several other colors of light. … It was a tremendous size. It even surprised me that it was able to fit into the clearing. A tremendous size -- and I use the word 'tremendous' carefully. It was a round, circular shape. I hate to say like a "plate", but it was thicker at the center than it was at the edge.



Statements of Adrian Bustinza in an interview with Larry Fawcett on April 20, 1984
(excerpts of the interview; source: Left at East Gate, emphasis is mine)

It was circular shaped … it looked like a pancake. It was thick in the middle and it would narrow out on the edges. I seen lights, all kinds of lights.
(…)
It wasn’t a humongous thing, but it was of a very good size.
(…)
…as big as a medium sized house I would say.
(…)
When it took off, it was like, hovering. It went up and, like, took off at about a forty-five-degree angle, and if you would have blinked, you would have missed it.
(…)
And we got a cold draft of air that lasted about a good ten seconds. You know, like you get a good blow of dust or wind. No noise though, I do remember that.
(…)
It turned, like, into a ball of light.
(…)
And it was like a glow around it, and it just took off.



Note how Adrian’s description of the craft taking off exactly matches that of Jim’s craft taking off two nights earlier. It also matches the general pattern of UFO behavior, by the way.
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Re: Halt tape transcript - July 2010 - by Stephan K. (German

Postby stephan » Fri Jul 09, 2010 1:36 pm

Frank wrote:Andy: When has Halt ever admitted to seeing anything land and on the ground? Saw beams of light hitting the ground according to him, but to me that is not landing.

[...]

And in the process, we came upon a yellow mist about 2-or-3 feet off the ground. It was like dew, but it was yellow … like nothing I've ever seen before. … We kind of like ignored it.


I think that C. Halt originally (and probably still) left out some details about what happened but meanwhile he seems to break the silence more and more. IMO it was very important that he said (at the NPC) WHERE the beams of light aimed at - the WSA. Also his recent statement that the Bentwaters lights and craft were (NOT may have been) quote ''extraterrestrial in origin'' (see http://www.earthfiles.com/news-print.php?ID=1698&category=Environment) is significant. I don't know why his revelations are emerging only bit by bit though. Maybe he's afraid of something, always trying to reveal a bit more and check if there's any bad response ? Perhaps it's time to say (and show ?) everything before he forgets something but we cannot be sure if he's threatened in some way by someone or if he's still sworn the secrecy. Personnaly I think that his ''tentative behavior'' is due to uncertainty in regard to the origin of those extraterrestrials as well as their capabilities. He rather wants to find out more by checking what the UFO community and other experts have to say and when he's sure about something he'll reveal a bit more once again. But that's just a supposition, I could be totally wrong here :wink:

that yellow dew stuff reminds me of the yellow foam-like substance that was witnessed by the fishermen in the Shag Harbour incident
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Re: Halt tape transcript - July 2010 - by Stephan K. (German

Postby stephan » Sun Aug 15, 2010 12:02 am

I've now marked the differences between Ian's and my version. This way it's easier to compare both versions especially if you don't want to read everything :D

red= different
green= addition
blue -- = omission

abbreviations: H= Halt, E= Englund, B= Ball, N= Nevels, V=voice, bg= background/ radio communication; comments in brackets

H: 150 feet or more from the initial, -- I should say, suspected impact point
V: right
H: having -- difficulty to get the light-all to work, seems to be some kind of mecanical problem. I think about getting another light-all. Meantime, over, -- take some readings with the Geiger counter and er, chase around the areal but wait for the light-all to mark it.

bg: six ... Sgt. ...ning to security control ... that's [knocking sound] mark one on the pod ... pod number [chair moving sound]

H: ok, we are now approaching the area within about 25/30 feet, what kind of readings --, we get anything ?
N: just minor clicks
H: minor clicks

bg: [seems to be in a room] ... to the last hour ? Here? Yeah.

H: where are the impressions ?
V: there's one...
H: is that all of debris we have?
E: well, there's one more well-defined over --...

bg: Sgt. Bustinza to security control

H: we are still getting clicks. clicks.

bg: Sgt. Bustinza ... [name mentioned ?] here ... security ... worrying[?] ... east gate

H: you want to read that on the scale ?
N: yes, sir, but now on the 5/ 10th scale and we are reading about, er, four Becquerel
H: ok we are still comfortable good safe here

bg: don't have a light-all ... for take three ... east gate ... security -- ... can't you hear me Sgt. Bustinza

H: still minor readings

[now here's a passage where two voices (one is Halt) seem to speak at the same time, I've put these voices over each other:]

v: never one ... will care ... about orientation
H: second ... pod ... of the indentations

bg: security states security

N: nope.
H: this one is dead. Let's go -- to the third one over here.

bg: Sgt. Bustinza

N: yes, now -- getting some residual
H: I can read out. The meter is definitely giving a little, pulse.

bg: you have the order ... electronic [or: Leary to Harvey?]

E: ... about the centre
H: that's what I was gonna say, let's go to the center of the area next to see what kind of reading we get out there

bg: cigarette [two knocking sounds]

H: you're reading the clicks, I can't get the clicks
V: yes, sure I do
H: now about the center, Bruce ?
N: yes
H: ok, let's go to the center, here
N: yes, I'm getting more
H: that's, that's supposed to ... best deflection [of the] needle I've seen yet. Ok, can you give me an estimation, we're on the point five scale ... we're getting ... we are having trouble reading the scale
E: at, er, approximately 01:25 hours

bg: [sound]

N: I'm getting right at, er, half a millirem

bg: [piano sound]

H[?]: best point
H: I don't see any, go any higher
V: the list won't fly around
H: ok, we'll go out toward it ... there
N: now it's picking up
H: this is out toward the number one indentation where we first got the strongest reading. Yeah, it's similar to what we got in the center.
N: right in the pod, it's right near the center
E: it's right in the area, here approximately, it could be a clash

[again two voices over each other, E + H:]

E: it's in the center of the triangle
H: it's hard to tell. Here, gonna take this, my fingers are about to freeze
V: here's to
E: up towards seven
H: what ?
E: just jumped to about towards 7/10th
H: seven tenths? right here in the center ?
V: that's right --
H: we found a small blast what looks like a blasted or scuffed up area here. We get pretty positive readings. [Let's] see, is that epicenter ?
E: yes, it is. This is where we would assume would be the dead center.
N: it's picking up more as you go along the whole area here now.
H: Up to seven tenths ? Or seven [bg: five], seven units, let's call it on the point five scale. Ok, why don't we do this. Why don't we make a sweep. Here, -- got the gloves on here. Let's take a sweep out around the whole area about ten foot out. Make a perimeter run around it, starting right back here at the corner, back -- the same first corner where we came in, let's go right back here. Don't let depend them on you counting the clicks.
N[?]: right
H: okay let's
N: it's ditzy here to get kind of
H: right, put the light on it. -- Let's sweep around it.
V: whose light ?
H: put it on the ground every once in a while
E: this looks like an abrasion on the tree
H: ok, we'll catch that on the way back, let's go around, move back, hit it then --
E: and there in the entrance right over here. It looks like an abrasion, pointing into the center of the ...
H: it is
E: landing area
H: it may be old though, there's some sap marks or something on it. Let's go on back around. Anything ?
N: these were the gifts, some extension on it
H: hey, this is an awkward thing to use isn't it ?
V: all this here, carry don't much it [wrong grammar ?] on my ears but this one broke
H: are we getting anything further, I'm goint to shut the recorder off until we find something
N: picking up good
H: picking up? what are we up to ? We're up to two, three units deflection, you're getting in close to one pod.
N: picking up something. picking up.
H: ok, it's still not going above three or four units
N: picking up more though, more frequent
H: yes, your status, you you stay steady up around two to three to four units now.
E: Colonel Halt?
H: Yeah

bg: laughing [?]

E: each one of these trees that face into the blast what we assume is the landing site, all have an abrasion facing in the same direction towards the center. The same...
H: let's see it
E: it likely was , it's obviously [or: still less around] the circle here, turn it back down here

bg: let me in

N: picking up some
V: correction
H: let me see that... that's got a funny, that's, that's, you worry about the abrasion. I've never, never seen a tree that's, er,
V: ... small sap marks
H: never seen a pine tree that's been damaged react that fast
N: -- got a bottle to put that in
H: yeah, yes, sample bottle
V: ... soil
H: yeah, here's such a sample ... ok, from now on let's let's let's let's indentify that as point number one, that stake there. So you all know where it is if we have to sketch it. You got that Sgt. Nevels?
N: yes, sir.
V: of course ...
H: ok
v: ... didn't work earlier
H: closest to the Woodbridge base
V: -- point one?
H: be it point one. Let's go clockwise from there
V: point two
H: point two. So this tree is between point two and point three

bg: about an hour between Burroughs and two other personnel requesting to Sgt. Ball in jeep at your location

B: tell'em negative at this time. We'll tell them when they can come out here. We don't want them out here right now.
H: the sample, you're gonna mark this sample number one.
N: yes, sir
H: have them cut it off and include some of that sample ... is between indentation two and three on a pine tree about, er, about five feet away, about three and a half feet off the ground.
N: I've got some more for the bottle
H: there's a round abrasion on the tree about three and a half, four inches in diameter. It looks like it might be old but, er, ..., strange, there's a crystalline pine sap that has come out that fast. You say there was other trees here that are damaged in a similar fashion ?
E: yes, [color=#FF0000]so often they've gotten in this wood they set out a landing, sir.[/color]
H: ok, why don't you take a picture of that and remember your picture, we ain't gonna be writing this down, oh it's coming on the tape.
E: you've got a tape measure with you, sir?
H: this is the picture, your first picture will be at the first tree. The one between, er, mark two and three. Meantime I'm gonna walk a couple -- of these trees over here.
N: we are getting some...
H: you're getting readings on the tree you're taking samples from on the side facing the suspected landing site.
N: four clicks max.
H: up to four. Interesting, that's -- where you are taking the sample now. Four, that's the strongest point on the tree ?
N: yes, sir. If you come to the back, there's no clicks wahtsoever.
H: no clicks at all on the back, it's all on the ...
N: maybe one or two
H: ... side facing the ... interesting. The indentations look like something twisted it as it got ... you know as it sat down on'em. Looks if someone took something and slided down and twisted it from side to side.
V: uh huh.
H: very strange. ... We are looking at the same tree we took the sample of-- with this ... what ya call it - starscope ?
E: uh huh, starlight scope.
H: get a definite heat reflection off the tree about -- three or four feet off the ground ?
E: yes, where the spot is
H: the same ... the same place where the spot is we are getting a heat ...
B: and a spot on the tree directly behind us, I picked up the the same thing, and one off to your right.
H: three trees in the area, immediately adjacent to the site within 10 feet of the suspected landing site, we are picking up heat deflection off the trees.
E: seems like Bob and I [tape break]
H: What's that again ?
E: well, shine the light on -- again, Bob
H: we are, can we hear you ?
V: yeah
E: get right on the spot -- ...
H: ok turn the light on
E: ... and then when you worm to my right you'll notice the white [sounds more like ''whike'']
H: hey ... you're right, there's another white streak on the tree
E: indicates a heat
H: let me turn around to this tree over here now. This second, watch 'coz you're direct on the tree. I can see it. All right, give me a little side light-- so I can find the tree. Ok, off.

bg: alpha two to security

H: -- I have lost the tree

bg: five

H: ok, stop, stop. Light off. Hey this is eerie.
V: why don't you do the pod spots, then the center ?
H: this is strange. Here, someone wanna look at the spots on the ground? Whoops, watch you won't step or walk on ...

bg: car going along, hooting

V: there's one step
H: okay, it's it's, step back, -- not walk all over it. Come back here, somebody put a beam on'em, we got to be back ten or fifteen feet. You see it?
V: yeah, ok fine
H: ok, lights off

bg: [TV voice?] he took this long to docu--

H: What d'you think about the spot ?
V: wait
H: yeah

V: what's here, first spot?
H: ok, that's what we'd call our spot number three. Let's go to the back corner and get spot number one
V: number one
H: spot humber one, here's spot number one, right here. Spot number one right here. Do you need some light, there it is, right there. Focused ?
V: focused
H: ok, looking at spot number one through the starlight scope
V: pick-- up a slight increase in light when they go over it
H: slight increase in light at spot number one. Let's go up to spot number two. Spot number two is right over here. Right here. See it ?
V: we need a spot in spot on [?]
H: ok, get focused on it. Tell me when...
V: we got in
H: ok, lights off, let's see -- we get on it
V: slight increase
H: just a slight increase ?
V: try the center
H: the center spot ... well, where would you be is the center, it's slightly off centered. Try it there.
V: right here
V: let's mark that as the center
H: ok, we're gonna get your reading on it right there
V: ok
H: tell me when you're ready
V: ready
H: ok, lights out. It is the center spot we're looking at now, or almost the center.
V: slight increase
H: slight increase there? This is slightly off centre toward the, er, one-two side. It's some type of an abrasion or something any round where the pine needles are all pushed back, all. We get a high radi--act, er, a high reading about, -- the deflection of the two to three, maybe four depending on the point of it.
V: -- wanna check it?
E: yes
H: you say there's a positive after-effect ?
E: yes, there is, definitely. That's on the center spot. There's an after-effect.
N: what does that mean?
E: it means -- when the lights are turned off once we are focused in, -- allow time for the eyes to adjust, we are getting an indication of a heat source coming out of that center spot, as, er, which will show up on the ...
H: heat is some form of energy. It's hardly heat at this stage of the game
V: it is
H: looking directly overhead one can see an opening in the trees plus some freshly, er, broken pine branches on the ground underneath. Looks like someone came off about 15 to 20 feet up. Some smaller branches about an inch or less in diameter. ... 01:48, we are hearing very strange sounds out of the farmer's barnyard animals. There's ...
V: 28..7
H: -- very very active, make an awful lot of noise
V: ... yes, in a fragmentation
H: you saw a light out there ...
V: yeah
H: ... by a guy's [?] barnhut,
where?
E: right at this position here. Straight ahead, in between the tree... there it is again. Watch straight ahead off my flashlight there, sir. There it is
H: I see it, too. What is it?
V: we don't know, sir

bg: shall we get the tigers on ... four, five

H: that's a strange, small, red light. Looks we are maybe a quarter to a half mile, maybe further out. I -- switch off. ... The light is gone now. It was approximately 120 degrees from the site
V: there, it's back --
H: is it back again?
V: yes, sir
H: well, douse flashlights then. Let's go back to the edge of the clearing, so I get a better look at it. See if we can get the starscope on it. The light is still there and all the barnyard animals have gotten quiet now. Yeah, we are heading about 110/120 degrees from the site out through to the clearing now, still getting a reading on the meter. About two clicks. Needle's jumped three to four clicks, getting stronger
V: now it-- stopped. Now it's coming up, hold on, there we go to about approximately four foot off the ground, at a compass heading of 110 degrees.
H: er, turn-- the meter off. Let's say that again. About four feet off the ground, about 110 degrees, getting a reading of about four clicks?
V: yes, sir [sneezes] excuse me. Now it's dying.
H: now it's dying. I think it's something other than the ground. I think it's something, it's something very large
V: large reading right on the tree [do both say large ? anyway, I'm sure Halt does] --
H: we-- just bumped -- the first night-bird we've seen. We are about 150/200 yards from the site.
V: another one
H: every nest is deadly calm. There's no doubt about it, there's some type of strange flashing red light ahead
V: yeah, it's yellow
H: I saw a yellow tinge in it, too. Weird. It, it, it appears to be maybe moving a -- bit this way ? Yes, it's brighter than -- has been.
V: yellow
H: it's coming this way ...
V: also
H: it is definitely coming this way
V: it's a bit shooting
H: pieces of it are shooting off
V: at eleven o'clock
H: there's no doubt about it. This is weird!
V: to the left
H: yeah, definitely moving left, two, two lights. Two, -- one light above, -- one light to the left. Keep the flashlights off. There's something very, very strange. Get the headset on to see if it gets any stronger.
N: I have
H: ok, give us gives you
N: well in the hard case this is on a beta reading, too
H: hard beta reading?
N: the beta shield has been removed
H: ok. pieces are falling off it again
V: they just moved to the right
H: yeah
V: off to the right
H: strange ... huh ... well, one to the left ? Let's approach, approach to the edge of the woods up there. -- You want do it without lights? Let's do it carefully, come on ... ok, we are looking at the thing, we're probably about two to three hundred yards away. -- Looks like an eye winking at you. Still moving from side to side and when you put the starscope on it, it, it's sort of, there's a hollow center, right, a dark center. It's ... I suspect [whispered] ... more -- like a pupil of an eye looking at you or winking. And the flash is so bright to the starscope that, er, it almost burns your eye. ... we've passed the f. ... passed the farmer's house -- crossing the next field, -- now we have mulitple sightings of up to five lights with a similar shape of it. They seem to be steady now rather a pulsating or glow with a red flash ... we-- just crossed the, the creek
V: it really got strong
H: and, er, we are getting what kind of readings now?
V: clicks
H: -- getting two, three good clicks on the meter and we are seeing strange lights in the sky ... about 2:44, we are at the far side of the farmer's, the second farmer's field and made sighting again about 110 degrees. This looks like it's clear after the coast, it's right on the horizon. Moves about a bit and flashes from time to time. Still steady or red in color. Also after negative readings in the center of the field we're picking up, er, slight readings, er, four or five clicks now on the meter. ... 3:05, we see strange, er, strobe-like flashes to the ... rather sporadic but there's definitely something there. Some kind of phenomenon. ... 3:05, at about, er, ten degrees, horizon, directly north, we've got two strange objects, er, half-moon in shape, dancing about with colored lights on'em. At, er, guess to be about five or ten miles out, maybe less. The half moons have now turned into full circles as though there was a dilept ... eclipse or something there for a minute or two. ... 03:15, now we've got an object about ten degrees directly south, ten degrees off the horizon
N: to the left
H: and the ones to the north are moving, one's moving away from us
V: moving ... all
N: moving out fast
V: this one on the right it's heading away, too
H: they are both heading north
V: well
H: hey, here, here he comes from the south, he's coming towards us now
V: weird
H: now we're observing what appears to be a beam coming down to the ground ...
V: colors
H: this is unreal ... 3:30 or 03:30, and the objects are still in the sky although the one to the south looks like it's losing a little bit of altitude. We're turning around and heading back toward the base. ... the object to the s, the object to the south is still beaming down lights to the ground. ... 04:00 hours, one object is still hovering over Woodbridge base at about five to ten degrees off the horizon, still moving erratic and similar lights and beaming down as earlier.
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