Observer and The 67th Pararescue Squadron UAV SPRITE

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Observer and The 67th Pararescue Squadron UAV SPRITE

Postby John Burroughs » Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:33 pm

Observer keeps pointing a finger at the 67th Pararescue being involved in this incident! Strangley enough I may have found some evidance that they were! I know for a fact that they were out in the Woods after the incident and somthing was lifted out of the woods by Helo and taken over to the 67th area. Go to Earth Files . com and look at a picture that is posted on the site. Look at what is seen hovering with the object! Now Goggle a UAV called the Sprite! It is British made and was operational in 1980. The Pararescue Squadron uses UAV in there operations! They also use Hang Gliders! The Object in the picture sure looks like a UAV Sprite! Zickler moved on to Eglin after Bentwaters a major Pararescue base and special ops base and they had alot of UFO activity. Kirkland also had a incident right before Bentwaters alot like what happened to us and they also have a major Pararescue unit! I also feel like this UAV could explain alot of what is causing the crop circles in England ! Observer can you ask your friend about this! Halt has also stated before he felt like what he saw could have been remotley controlled!
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Re: Observer and The 67th Pararescue Squadron UAV SPRITE

Postby John Burroughs » Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:07 pm

When you goggle UAV Sprite you will find a article on powerline inspections by Vtol UAV Sprite! Go to a picture they have taken at night with a Thermal Imager!
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Re: Observer and The 67th Pararescue Squadron UAV SPRITE

Postby John Burroughs » Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:17 pm

Also look at the Wisp and Wideeye. The company who worked on the UAV was ML Aviation!
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Re: Observer and The 67th Pararescue Squadron UAV SPRITE

Postby Admin » Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:53 pm

Very interesting, John. I found a few 'clippings' which are attached.

Here's the power line inspection information you referred to:
http://www.uavnet.com/DL/Document_Library/London_Meeting/Powerline_Austin.pdf

Turns out the SPRITE UAV was equipped with red navigation lights, two small - and I assume comparatively quiet - engines, distance measuring sensors and tripod-like landing gear.

So would this UAV be able to navigate through the trees (with its distance measuring sensors) in a glowing red light and be able to leave indentations in the forest floor with its tripod-like landing gear?

Apparently the UAV could be "controlled by a laser". Is it possible that the laser-like beams Colonel Halt observed were actually being sent up from the ground by the UAV's operators?

You may be on to something, John.



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Re: Observer and The 67th Pararescue Squadron UAV SPRITE

Postby Observer » Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:44 am

I find this information about a UAV very interesting and i thank John for finding it and posting it.
I have for some considerable time suspected that the 67th Para-rescue Sqd have had a part to play in this incident, either directly or indirectly.

If you consider the dimensions of the craft seen in the woods described by Jim Penniston, the SPRITE and other rotary wing surviellance craft seem much too small. However, it does not mean that there were not larger ones around at that time that we have yet to identify.

All UAV's in commercial use and privately operated for for non military operations such as power line inspection etc. will require by law a full set of navigation lights. One would have thought that a military UAV surviellance craft would not be fitted with Nav lights for obvious reasons.

Lt Col Halt said in one of his statements that what he saw seemed to be under some sort of intellegent control, which can loosly imply that it was remotely [radio or laser] controlled. This does add some weight to a UAV theory.
Also if we are to believe that some thing had crashed down to the ground and broken off some branches in the process, that would surely have torn off any rotor blades if it was a rotary powered UAV and thus it would not be able to take off again. This is where i think a PJ had crashed his powered ultra lght, which from my received information fits the size and shape of Jim's descriptions.

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Re: Observer and The 67th Pararescue Squadron UAV SPRITE

Postby John Burroughs » Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:21 pm

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How do you know it would not be able to take off again? It fits into what could have been flying around! I also have come up with some other interesting facts! We very well could have had a electromagnetic pulse used on us. The Marconi company was neck deep in that kind of work! The pulse does not have to come from a nuclear bomb it can be created other ways! It would effect our radios vehicles and leave traces of Radition! It does appear the 67th was involved and it would sure be nice if your friend would come forword or give up a name of somebody else who might want to help!! If the UAV was fitted with a Laser it could have put a hole in the top part of the forrest. A Pulse would throw off the effect we felt!
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Re: Observer and The 67th Pararescue Squadron UAV SPRITE

Postby Observer » Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:32 pm

John
I have to respect my friends request to stay anonemous, that's his descision.

My thoughts on the SPRITE or other UAV's that had rotary wings like a helicopter is that if it had crashed down through the trees breaking off branches in the process, it surely would have torn its rotor blades off making it impossible to take off again.

As for the EMP, that still remains a possibility, but i don't know how to take that further, i tried as you know and got no where in my investigations.
EMP [electromagnetic pulse] is a bi product of a nuclear burst, It was known then to burn out solid state circuits which is why all Soviet aircraft used valve radios which are immune to the pulse. The Russians were quite advanced in this field of research as were the British, and there is one theory that the Russians tried to deactivate the nukes at Bentwaters by a localised EMP from some device they had parachuted in. Is this what Halt meant when he said that the arming codes on the nukes in the WSA had been altered and they went off line.
I'm not sure of what range this EMP had as the device was in the forest but the nukes were about a mile away at BW.
Just a theory.

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Re: Observer and The 67th Pararescue Squadron UAV SPRITE

Postby Observer » Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:38 am

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Your absolutely right about the EMP and the protective measures in place at the WSA.

There was an experiment done at the White Sands missile base only a couple of years ago where they had a device that could stop a car in its tracks by using a EMP. It used megawatts of power to give one small pulse powerful enough to fry the cars ECU. I don't think this tech was around in 1980. It was featured on the 'Future Weapons' show on the History channel.

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Re: Observer and The 67th Pararescue Squadron UAV SPRITE

Postby John Burroughs » Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:58 pm

Dig a little deeper they were working on certain things and had developed certain equipment that could create a pulse without exploding a bomb! Interesting enough 2 of the places they were working on this were Eglin and Kirkland AFB!!
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Re: Observer and The 67th Pararescue Squadron UAV SPRITE

Postby puddlepirate » Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:57 pm

Interesting that several of the buildings in the WSA area are each enclosed within a Faraday cage - covered in steel mesh with an earthing bus.....There's a good explanation of how the cage works here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday_cage and there's some stuff on EMP on Page 82 of the doc found at: http://www.the-dma.org.uk/files/documen ... 202009.pdf

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No idea what any of that means but it sounds, er, interesting. Well, to someone who needs to get out more it might... .:o)
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Re: Observer and The 67th Pararescue Squadron UAV SPRITE

Postby Observer » Wed Nov 11, 2009 6:16 pm

And, Kirkland AFB is where the Para-rescue command conducted a lot of their training and secret incursion exercises along with high tech weapons testing in the field.

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Re: Observer and The 67th Pararescue Squadron UAV SPRITE

Postby John Burroughs » Wed Nov 11, 2009 6:59 pm

And Eglin AFB is where the Parescue and special OPS work out of and Maj Zickler next base was! Kirkland also had the largest EMP testing device and the strange thing is they stated there was one in the UK but they have never ID the location it was! And we all know that Kirkland is where the nukes come from and Hasting found someone from there who said 2 devices were removed from Bentwaters and now Halt has said he talked to that person and beleives what he had to say!
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Re: Observer and The 67th Pararescue Squadron UAV SPRITE

Postby Observer » Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:26 pm

From what i have been told by medical experts, an EMP will not hurt you, all it does is mess up transistors in solid state electronics. MRI and Cobalt scanners work on the same principle and they would not use them if it was thought they could injure people!!!
Microwaves however, depending on their frequency and power can have adverse effects on the human body. We have been down this road before on the forum, just look at the old posts on the subject, we covered it pretty well if i remember correctly.
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Re: Observer and The 67th Pararescue Squadron UAV SPRITE

Postby John Burroughs » Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:33 pm

Nobody said a EMP Pulse would hurt the people involved but it could help cause the effect that we experienced! Mircowaves would also cause a effect and both would leave traces of radation! Shortly after the incident happened and after peope started looking into it statements were made that we brought down a Russian Sat as it was being brought back to earth. 3 things stand out certain areas located around Bentwaters were put on alert to possibility be evac! The 67th Commander was a expert in recoverning Sat! What would have been used to change a Sat orbit as it came in. What was in the area of Bentwaters that could have been used! Who and what would have been used to recover it. What would the Russian responce be after it happened. What would effect devices stored inside the weapons storage area. What would have been used to track the Sat. Col Halt has said he beleives a Sat was recovered out of the woods in the days after the incident! I know what I saw flying around in the sky was not a glider but could have been a UAV. Also what would have caused a feeling of time slowing down and memory loss and even the effect of 2 people seeing the same thing differently? Also what would cause a effect of a Ball of Engery being seen in the sky?
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Re: Observer and The 67th Pararescue Squadron UAV SPRITE

Postby Observer » Thu Nov 12, 2009 6:33 pm

I suggested on this forum many moons ago along with one or two other members that it may have been a Russian SAt that came down in the forest, but we just got B--l S--t from other people including you saying no way, remember? Now you seem to have changed your beliefs.

I'm perfectly happy to follow this theory if you can give us some thing to go on, so save your energy from having a go at me and give us some thing to work on and I will be happy to work with you.
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Re: Observer and The 67th Pararescue Squadron UAV SPRITE

Postby John Burroughs » Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:06 pm

What I came up upon and observed flying away was not a Russian Sat! I have not changed my mind on that what so ever! Could that be the reason behind the activity in the woods yes! Next question would a Sat show up on radar as it was comming in! Also take a look at the AFSWC Portable Modular EMP Generator. It was developed by the AF special weapons center in 1967!
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Re: Observer and The 67th Pararescue Squadron UAV SPRITE

Postby John Burroughs » Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:27 pm

Now I have found a article on EMP pulse effect on humans! Slowing of thought and psychomotor reaction from which people recover within a brief period!
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Re: Observer and The 67th Pararescue Squadron UAV SPRITE

Postby Observer » Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:16 pm

A Sat would show up on radar as it got nearer.
You must also consider one comment Halt made, [i think it was Halt] where he said some thing was expected coming in over the North sea from the East!! I wonder what was meant by that? Was this why the radar films were checked at RAF Watton to see if this expected object showed up on screen. I assume it was a 'flying' object.
I think one very small group of people [67th] knew what it was and were expecting it, but most others didn't which included your group of people.
There has been a lot of misinformation given out deliberately by the USAF.
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Re: Observer and The 67th Pararescue Squadron UAV SPRITE

Postby John Burroughs » Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:57 am

The radar contact happened on the first night not the 3rd night! Eastern radar reported to us somthing was seen on radar over the woodbridge base then disapeared!!
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Re: Observer and The 67th Pararescue Squadron UAV SPRITE

Postby Observer » Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:26 am

Thanks ST

I knew some body had said this, but was not sure who. If as Jaques Valle suggests an object was expected to come in over the North sea from the east, then there would be without doubt a small number of USAF personel who knew this and were expecting it.

Yes John, this object came in on the first night and was seen on radar, but the next 2 nights were you guys chasing round the forest. This may be what they wanted you to do?

Also, as Valle suggests it may have been a planned psychops, that really does put this incident in the 67th hands. They were experts at these sorts of ops and were trained in counter insurgency and disception. As my pal told me, a lot of their MO is highly classified which is probably why none have come forward to say any thing.
As Brian Berg [now deceased] said, we could make the enemy look one way while we did stuff in another. we could get their attention for hours while the real job was being done behind their backs.
Obviuosly, this is just conjecture, but its worth looking into further.

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